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Hello constructive dismissal!
imgabe implied it's difficult for a company to fire someone. I'm responding that it's trivially easy for a company to make your life a living hell, and make you want to quit.
My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon
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So? You dont have to pay them back immediatly. I have walked away with neither credit or savings before. Thrown away stock and titles. There is never a good reason to let someone abuse you and hold you hostage from living a life you enjoy. I swear this is like listening to people in abusive relationships with tunnel vision. "If we break up I will be poor!" The world didn't end any of the times I have walked away. Lit…
Well, good for you. People have mortgages, they have children, and so on. Life is not as neat and clean as HN likes to make it. People are not robots, and do not always make perfectly rational decisions. Sometimes the 'easier' decision to stay at a company where you have reasonable assurance of continued employment and stability. I put easier in quotes because I recognize the truth of what you say, but in general thi…
Most of the people I talk to in these situations however are not shopping around. Acting like they are trapped or a helpless victim. If someone is not happy at a job they owe it to themselves, in spite of any drama going on in their lives, to make time for interviews until they get the sucky job problem solved.
By no means blow off family in need etc, but making time to get into a happy work environment could mean less stress, enough or more money, and a much easier time dealing with the difficult parts of life one can't change.
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You CAN quit. We are in an industry where you have to dodge recruiters trying to tackle you on your way to get coffee if you have any technical skill. Recruiters that represent companies capable of paying your mortgage and some probably well needed vacations. Personally I have folded companies, quit jobs, and turned away opprotunities that represented substantially more than I make now. People have called these choic…
Your assessment of the tech employment market is overly rosy. OP can quit and possibly find another tech job. Chances are, it won't be noticeably different from his/her current job in terms of working conditions, compensation, or benefits. Of course there are rare outlier counter-examples, just in case someone wants to "prove" me wrong.
You bother because getting it right is worth it, and when you do you won't regret having a few failed attempts getting there. It is a big world with a lot of positive opprotunities. Go find yours :)
Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon
#275I have a four-week rotation on-call where I work. Pretty much the same workload as discussed in the article with it. Calls and text messages at 3am, can't be more than 15 minutes away from an internet connection (remote desktop software on Android is a godsend.) While it doesn't feel unbearable, and pays fairly well (at least for the area I'm in), it definitely has completely destroyed my sleep schedule. I no longer…
I am currently the head of a two person ops team, so we effectively share on-call all the time. In reality as the buck stops with me I am on call constantly. It's a drag and I really wish I hadn't been backed into this corner (partly my fault, partly the company). With that said; my Fiancee is a trainee nurse. She works three thirteen hour shifts a week. Which totally destroys your sleep pattern. Working two thirteen…
2000's, I worked at a call center and then a large software company in Bangalore. Late nights, weekends and sometimes even doing consecutive days(2-3 days) at office were common. Some people I known of have clocked a record 7 days at office, sleeping in dorms for 4 hours per day. None of us complained, because merely getting a job in those situations was a blessing. Who would mind atrocious working hours, where the next option is bankruptcy.
My father was a truck driver, then a bus driver and is now a taxi driver. Most of his life he pretty much went perennially sleep deprived, tiring work driving all time. With no access to food, good sleeping conditions or even a rest room.
In fact this is pretty much how bulk of world works to make a living.
Recently, in the last 4-5 years. I had a day job and was doing my start up on the side. 10-11 hours at office and 6-9 hours of start up work at home was common. Getting barely 5 hours of sleep after a grueling day of very hard work, tense situations and routine crippling failures are common.
I would say human life is very hard. That's how it is by default.
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That might sound crazy but on a software engineering salary, you can retire before 50 if you get used to spending little on food, transportation and shelter. My most favorite online resource on how to live frugally is this: http://earlyretirementextreme.com/how-i-became-financially-i... .
Retirement is mainly appealing to those who don't like what they do for a living.
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From context, it's obvious where comma is placed. Context is (sadly) so undervalued these days. In my defense: A) Not native B) Written in a hurry. Anyway to assuage your fears of grammatically imperfect sentences, I've installed fresh commas. Enjoy.
There are too many things which are, sadly, undervalued. The only thing which seems to be overvalued is the "He did it too" excuse.
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What labor laws do you find insane?
I heard the daily complaints from a person attempting to handle restructuring at a major UK bank. Let me emphasize that the restructuring was ordered by parliament, who also happened to own most of the bank. Various difficulties: - Work councils get input in whether you can lay someone off - it's a far cry from at-will employment. - Pretty insane laws surrounding pregnancy - you have give a pregnant woman the option…
I'm also not familiar with anyone who has got pregnant to avoid layoffs, if nothing else given the cost of raising a child it seems like a very poor tradeoff.
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Thanks for not saying that its better than a brothel of Bangladesh and China. It was clear in what context I have written my comment. Your argument can be qualified as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum
well, his (valid) point is, that arguably most of this planet inahbitants would do anything possible to get a job like that, for even half the income. which is true. just we in IT and developers in particular are in these days amazingly spoiled, full of this feeling that we are some engineer++, more clever, and generally better than say construction engineers (or any other for that matter). back home we have a saying…
Until they get the job, realize that pain is everywhere, and pray their children won't have to go through the same thing.
Destroying your employees doesn't suddenly become a sustainable way of running the human race just because you're destroying them in front of a computer screen instead of in a rice field.