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Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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As I'm sure you know, it wasn't just globalisation, Margaret Thatcher's intention was to spancel the unions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_labour_law_in_the_U...

Unions are noisy lately here in London , i'll have 2 hours commute next week thanks to them.

The public sector is the only sector that is still strongly unionised while also being the sector with least necessity for it

Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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Many people are fooled by prestige. PG's elaboration on it changed my life: "Your opinions about what's admirable are always going to be slightly influenced by prestige, so if two options seem equal to you, you probably have more genuine admiration for the less prestigious one. [...] If you admire two kinds of work equally, but one is more prestigious, you should probably choose the other." ( http://www.paulgraham.co…

> Easy immigration (for EU citizens) The lucky schmucks. As far as I could tell from research, immigrating as a US citizen is not an operation they support at all.

A company can get you a work permit into Switzerland by showing that they can not find anyone else: An employer has to show a couple of EU/Swiss-resumes to the authorities and point out how they are not suited for the job and how you are. I know a company that has done that with Ukrainians and Russians.

Shoot me a mail, if you are interested in moving here; I can try to help out.

Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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I just turned down an offer because of something like this. I went through a bunch of interviews and things seemed pretty peachy, until I interviewed with a guy (who'd have been a peer) who was probably way more candid than management would've liked. He said things like "I haven't gotten a raise in five years so make sure you negotiate hard when you come in", "I got an apartment close to the office so I can be here q…

> I just turned down an offer because of something like this. One question, was this offer from amazon? I mean, are the things the guy said for amazon?

Why does that matter? He is drawing a personal story that is comparable to the Amazon story, trying to describe his ability to find the proper work culture for his life.

I am not trying to argue, just wish your two questions had a reasoning behind them as in writing they sound harsh to me.

Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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Looking at this story (the wider Amazon story) it seems to me a lot of the value is getting extracted from employees in a sort of creeping way. So you might go to an interview where the manager says there's pager duty now and again, but it's not too intense. You get on the job, and it's a whole lot more intense than expected. You can't leave because you've just turned down a bunch of other offers and moved towns. You…

Many people are fooled by prestige. PG's elaboration on it changed my life: "Your opinions about what's admirable are always going to be slightly influenced by prestige, so if two options seem equal to you, you probably have more genuine admiration for the less prestigious one. [...] If you admire two kinds of work equally, but one is more prestigious, you should probably choose the other." ( http://www.paulgraham.co…

I chose a similar route because of perks and pay. My only fear is this choice hurting my future employment when I'll likely be discriminated due to age. I would imagine having Google or Facebook on my resume would surely make getting a job at age 50+ much easier.

Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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> When our first daughter was about a month old, my husband was asked to go on a business trip. I imagine he could have turned that down, but I was insistent that he go so that his managers would not worry that his home life was impacting his work ethic. This is the Amazon way, after all. It was also one of the loneliest weeks of my life.

Amazon seems to have serious issues, but this one is on the employee/spouse. If you don't protect your personal life/family time, how can you expect the company to?

I have young kids so I come in to the office early and don't stay late too often so I can be home with them. I know some upper management probably look down on this, but expectations were clear when I was hired and my boss is OK with it. I realize keeping this balance may disqualify me from ever becoming VP of engineering, but I am more than OK with that if it means being a better spouse and father.

Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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What labor laws do you find insane?

I heard the daily complaints from a person attempting to handle restructuring at a major UK bank. Let me emphasize that the restructuring was ordered by parliament, who also happened to own most of the bank. Various difficulties: - Work councils get input in whether you can lay someone off - it's a far cry from at-will employment. - Pretty insane laws surrounding pregnancy - you have give a pregnant woman the option…

You know that the USA also has mandatory consultation before Layoffs (redundancy) - in some ways more onerous as the penalties are harder.

Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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I am currently the head of a two person ops team, so we effectively share on-call all the time. In reality as the buck stops with me I am on call constantly. It's a drag and I really wish I hadn't been backed into this corner (partly my fault, partly the company). With that said; my Fiancee is a trainee nurse. She works three thirteen hour shifts a week. Which totally destroys your sleep pattern. Working two thirteen…

Yeah, I am constantly amazed and terrified of the kinds of shifts doctors and nurses do. I really do not understand how they manage to not make mistakes in such an environment. In Grey's Anatomy, you often see people taking a couple of hours sleep mid shift; is this generally accurate?

They do make mistakes. Hospital errors are the third leading cause of death in the U.S.

Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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India is a better bet. 10.5 hours away means they are nearly on the opposite schedule, price is better (wages only marginally, but Europe has lots of other costs) and you aren't stuck dealing with insane euro labor laws.

In a thread about employer abuse this comes across as remarkably tone-deaf. Note to self: do not go to work for Mr Stucchio.

Definition of "tone-deaf": I don't factually disagree with anything you said, but your mood affiliation goes the wrong way.

In any case, I only hire people who demonstrate the ability to think logically rather than emotionally - it's vital in software roles.

Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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Many people are fooled by prestige. PG's elaboration on it changed my life: "Your opinions about what's admirable are always going to be slightly influenced by prestige, so if two options seem equal to you, you probably have more genuine admiration for the less prestigious one. [...] If you admire two kinds of work equally, but one is more prestigious, you should probably choose the other." ( http://www.paulgraham.co…

I chose a similar route because of perks and pay. My only fear is this choice hurting my future employment when I'll likely be discriminated due to age. I would imagine having Google or Facebook on my resume would surely make getting a job at age 50+ much easier.

That might sound crazy but on a software engineering salary, you can retire before 50 if you get used to spending little on food, transportation and shelter. My most favorite online resource on how to live frugally is this: http://earlyretirementextreme.com/how-i-became-financially-i....

Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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Looking at this story (the wider Amazon story) it seems to me a lot of the value is getting extracted from employees in a sort of creeping way. So you might go to an interview where the manager says there's pager duty now and again, but it's not too intense. You get on the job, and it's a whole lot more intense than expected. You can't leave because you've just turned down a bunch of other offers and moved towns. You…

One of my cow-orkers is an ex Amazonian. Not damaged, though he rather disliked the culture. Amazon lost a good egg when we hired him.

He says that the only thing you can expense without a manager's permission is a pager. Which, if true, tells you a lot about Amazon.

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