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Re: OnHub

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Post by TeMPOraL »

wstrange wrote: post #531
TeMPOraL wrote: post #322

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I wouldn't phrase it so negatively but I do share the same sentiment. I think this is the craziness that seems to be so widespread that people don't notice how crazy it is - the primary way for two devices sitting few meters from each other to communicate should not be routing packets around half of the planet. I get it's easier, but it's bad engineering, unnecessarily wasteful energy-wise and I bet the only reason t…

"unnecessarily wasteful energy-wise" This is just for setup right? So the energy cost is insanely trivial, hardly worth mentioning.

I'm making a general point here. In case of this router, one-time expense is indeed hardly worth mentioning. I just dislike the whole trend.

Re: OnHub

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Post by WA »

nota_bene wrote: post #564
Albright wrote: post #506

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Oh, come on. Just connect your Google router to your Google fiber connection and connect to it with your smartphone or laptop running a Google operating system and Google browser. Visit your Google home page (using Google's DNS servers, of course) to read your Google Mail, or perhaps catch up on the news with Google News, or use Google+ to see what your friends are up to, or get a little work done on Google Docs. Sho…

Spot on. I don't get it. It's become so obvious and people still seem to categorically refuse to admit the elephant in the room and to act upon it. It's as if everybody was in some kind of unbreakable state of permanent cognitive paralysis.

And still, the HN crowd uses Gmail a lot. Here's the most technical crowd on the planet and people are obsessed with Gmail as if it was impossible to get email to work by any other means.

Furthermore, I will never understand why people would use Gmail, if there's IMAP and hundreds of email clients to choose from.

Same is true for Google Reader, that apparently caused a lot of buzz when it went away. Never understood this.

The only Google product I use is Google Maps, and Google Search occasionally. Replaced the latter with DuckDuckGo mostly and works well most of the time.

Re: OnHub

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Post by jon-wood »

emilburzo wrote: post #193

Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but since it's a router thread, I'll go ahead. I'm looking to buy a router with better performance than the Linksys E3200 that I currently have. Lots of VMs, torrents with many connections, etc are taking a toll on it, especially towards the NAT connection count limit (wifi signal/speed is enough for me). ERLite from Ubiquiti Networks seems interesting, but it's not so popul…

The ERLite is a fantastic router. I picked one up with the same worries you seem to have, but there's a decent community around them, and even then you'll likely only need that if you're doing something exotic like failover connections (although even those are now supported through the web UI).

For $99 the only drawback is that it doesn't also do wifi, but given how poorly my previous all in one APs have done that's possibly a feature. Ubiquiti's Unifi APs piss all over older access points I've had, I just wish I'd ponied up for at least one AC standard one instead of cheaping out on the G band ones.

Re: OnHub

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Post by leni536 »

WA wrote: post #572
nota_bene wrote: post #564

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spot on. I don't get it. It's become so obvious and people still seem to categorically refuse to admit the elephant in the room and to act upon it. It's as if everybody was in some kind of unbreakable state of permanent cognitive paralysis.

And still, the HN crowd uses Gmail a lot. Here's the most technical crowd on the planet and people are obsessed with Gmail as if it was impossible to get email to work by any other means. Furthermore, I will never understand why people would use Gmail, if there's IMAP and hundreds of email clients to choose from. Same is true for Google Reader, that apparently caused a lot of buzz when it went away. Never understood…

I only use Google maps for public transport route planning, otherwise I use openstreetmap. And osmand on Android is freaking awesome.

Re: OnHub

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Post by greghill »

WA wrote: post #572
nota_bene wrote: post #564

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spot on. I don't get it. It's become so obvious and people still seem to categorically refuse to admit the elephant in the room and to act upon it. It's as if everybody was in some kind of unbreakable state of permanent cognitive paralysis.

And still, the HN crowd uses Gmail a lot. Here's the most technical crowd on the planet and people are obsessed with Gmail as if it was impossible to get email to work by any other means. Furthermore, I will never understand why people would use Gmail, if there's IMAP and hundreds of email clients to choose from. Same is true for Google Reader, that apparently caused a lot of buzz when it went away. Never understood…

Is the search as good or as fast at gmail on these IMAP clients? I used the mail app for iPhone for a while and it sure isn't.

Re: OnHub

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Post by WA »

greghill wrote: post #575
WA wrote: post #572

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And still, the HN crowd uses Gmail a lot. Here's the most technical crowd on the planet and people are obsessed with Gmail as if it was impossible to get email to work by any other means. Furthermore, I will never understand why people would use Gmail, if there's IMAP and hundreds of email clients to choose from. Same is true for Google Reader, that apparently caused a lot of buzz when it went away. Never understood…

Is the search as good or as fast at gmail on these IMAP clients? I used the mail app for iPhone for a while and it sure isn't.

I use Mail on OS X and it is good enough for my purpose. Could certainly be a bit more sophisticated, but most of the time, it works. I like to have a real email client for my mails and not use a web app.

There might be dedicated search engines for emails though, if search is very important.

See, if you use search a lot and Google has the superior product for your use case, that's totally fine. But I guess most people use Gmail out of habit and not because it is truly superior to other email clients.

Re: OnHub

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Post by emilburzo »

jon-wood wrote: post #573
emilburzo wrote: post #193

Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but since it's a router thread, I'll go ahead. I'm looking to buy a router with better performance than the Linksys E3200 that I currently have. Lots of VMs, torrents with many connections, etc are taking a toll on it, especially towards the NAT connection count limit (wifi signal/speed is enough for me). ERLite from Ubiquiti Networks seems interesting, but it's not so popul…

The ERLite is a fantastic router. I picked one up with the same worries you seem to have, but there's a decent community around them, and even then you'll likely only need that if you're doing something exotic like failover connections (although even those are now supported through the web UI). For $99 the only drawback is that it doesn't also do wifi, but given how poorly my previous all in one APs have done that's…

Yeah, I'm starting to consider it a bonus if the devices are separated (router/wifi).

Thank you, I'll give the product another look.

Re: OnHub

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Post by mtgx »

Natanael_L wrote: post #457
lifeisstillgood wrote: post #417

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I agree with the idea that the best protecting n for privacy is to make it expensive to snoop - it's worked for thousands of years so far. My concern is how to make the benefits of this huge amount of data (medical information, travel etc) possible while charging the other use. It's just - how - does one attach the metadata and enforce the lolicensing?

Multiparty Computation, homomorphic encryption, Private Information Retrieval, etc... Unfortunately they're not very efficient, and have limited security guarantees. But that's part of an approach to do it securely.

All of which Google likely has no interest in researching.

Re: OnHub

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Post by Tepix »

"Choose a password you can remember, and share it with a friend using the Google On app."

No, but no thanks. Not with Google. It's already hard to prevent people from syncing my wifi password with them as part of the Android cloud stuff.

Re: OnHub

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Post by Tepix »

WA wrote: post #572
nota_bene wrote: post #564

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spot on. I don't get it. It's become so obvious and people still seem to categorically refuse to admit the elephant in the room and to act upon it. It's as if everybody was in some kind of unbreakable state of permanent cognitive paralysis.

And still, the HN crowd uses Gmail a lot. Here's the most technical crowd on the planet and people are obsessed with Gmail as if it was impossible to get email to work by any other means. Furthermore, I will never understand why people would use Gmail, if there's IMAP and hundreds of email clients to choose from. Same is true for Google Reader, that apparently caused a lot of buzz when it went away. Never understood…

Agreed. Even if Gmail is superior in some regards (I don't know - is it? There must be a reason so many people use it), as a tech savvy person I consider it a matter of pride (and privacy of course) to run my own mailserver with project like Sovereign https://github.com/sovereign/sovereign
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