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Re: OnHub

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Post by jarfil »

astrocyte wrote: post #321

My biggest issue with this is that Google wants to inject a piece of hardware into my home that acts as the gateway to my data. A device through which all : > Incoming data runs through > Internal data runs through > Outgoing data runs through And then wants to be vague about what data they will be pumping to their back-end for analytics/data mining. I have had a long standing proposal for home automation and I'm cur…

"a device which ensures your 'home automation' data stays in your home"

I have one of those, it's a Linksys router with OpenWRT acting as a firewall.

But if you can make it more user friendly and sparkle some hype all over... sure, go for it.

Re: OnHub

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Post by crabasa »

astrocyte wrote: post #321

My biggest issue with this is that Google wants to inject a piece of hardware into my home that acts as the gateway to my data. A device through which all : > Incoming data runs through > Internal data runs through > Outgoing data runs through And then wants to be vague about what data they will be pumping to their back-end for analytics/data mining. I have had a long standing proposal for home automation and I'm cur…

I don't think there will be a significant market for your idea. One of the most rapidly adopted technologies of the 20th century is Color Television [1] and it still commands 36% of our attention [2].

Consumers have made it crystal clear that they are willing to trade their time and data for lower prices and more convenience. Watch the commercial on that landing page. It couldn't be targeted less at technical people.

[1]: http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/business/technol...

[2]: http://www.emarketer.com/Article/Mobile-Continues-Steal-Shar...

Re: OnHub

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Post by awgneo »

astrocyte wrote: post #460
lifeisstillgood wrote: post #417

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with the idea that the best protecting n for privacy is to make it expensive to snoop - it's worked for thousands of years so far. My concern is how to make the benefits of this huge amount of data (medical information, travel etc) possible while charging the other use. It's just - how - does one attach the metadata and enforce the lolicensing?

Therein lies the 'product' ... I'm working on several projects so I wasn't shy to put the general idea of this one out there... It's one of many things I feel passionately are going to be changed by disruptive paradigm shifts ahead. That being said, you come up w/ the 'solution' and you'll have your 'product'... I already have a general architecture/approach outlined for myself. Create one and, from the looks of the…

I love your perspective on the current obsession with cloud computing. Hit me up sometime if you would like to talk more about this topic.

Re: OnHub

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Post by erbdex »

ghola2k5 wrote: post #23

Coolest thing I see is on the NewEgg page where it says it's "weave" ready, and you can see the Zigbee/Bluetooth radios. It's a router, and it's the smart home hub.

1. Overall-- this can, theoretically speaking, integrate all- WiFi IoT, Zigbee IoT, Thread IoT, Weave IoT. Whichever way the market picks-up, Google can.

2. On top of that, the specs are good enough to stream multiple IP cams.

3​. Shot in the dark, but with all the "six 2.4GHz antennas, six 5GHz antennas, and a congestion-sensing antenna"​ they're probably trying to fix the classical WiFi congestion and star-topology range issues that comes with WiFi IoT. Especially because it supports 128 devices in WiFi. ​ 4. Rumors are, it already runs Brillo, their IoT OS they showcased at IO.​ ​ 5. Its bridge mode support be something they can use to have "multiple BRs" as promised by Thread? ​

[4] http://nextmarket.co/blogs/smarthomeweekly/29309313-google-i... [5] https://support.google.com/onhub/answer/6275097?vid=1-635755...

Re: OnHub

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Post by Schwolop »

endtime wrote: post #215
andrewla wrote: post #184

From [1] Get started Welcome! To set up your OnHub, you’ll also need: Google account Android or iOS device Broadband connection Google account? That seems like an unnecessary requirement for a router. [1] https://on.google.com/hub/support/#get-started

(Disclaimer: I work for the same former-division-of-Google-and-now-Alphabet-subsidiary that built this, though I don't work on OnHub.) I think you need an account for cloud-based configuration, credential sharing, etc. Maybe it's not for everyone, but I think it makes sense as a product. I highly doubt they added a Google account requirement to improve ad targeting.

If you're able to tell, which division is that? Is this really inner-Google product development, or mostly/partial/somewhat outsourced via a prod-dev consultancy?

Re: OnHub

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Post by FlaceBook »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #465
BufordTJustice wrote: post #453

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yeah, but by giving more data you let software to personalize better. So by reducing your data exposure you are acting as techno-Luddite stiffing progress. Is this sarcasm? I guess I fail to understand how Google now knowing all the details of my life impedes "progress". It shouldn't stop them from developing new technology; why does the "cloud" need to figure out how to "personalize" things more for me anyways, ou…

> Is this sarcasm? More of irony, I guess. Google's core is still about serving you information and possibly some knowledge. To get better insights they need more information. It is as simple as that. MS entered the same field with Windows 10. They need more data to give better Cortana experience. If it's not all the data, Siri, Now & Cortana would suck. Now we are witnessing them going mainstream.

> Google's core is still about serving you information

...of their choosing.

Re: OnHub

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Post by pluma »

Step 1: Get people to buy a ChromeCast to view their media

Step 2: Make ChromeCast randomly vanish from WiFi

Step 3: Get people to buy an OnHub to fix their WiFi

Step 4: ???

Step 5: All your data

Re: OnHub

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Post by FlaceBook »

RobLach wrote: post #478
endtime wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Disclaimer: I work for the same former-division-of-Google-and-now-Alphabet-subsidiary that built this, though I don't work on OnHub.) I think you need an account for cloud-based configuration, credential sharing, etc. Maybe it's not for everyone, but I think it makes sense as a product. I highly doubt they added a Google account requirement to improve ad targeting.

"I highly doubt they added a Google account requirement to improve ad targeting." I find that a highly optimistic statement given advertising is pretty much Google's only significantly profitable product and is supporting the entire conglomerate.

Obviously you haven't heard. Google isn't in it to make money. They just want to "help people".

I saw it on reddit, so it must be true.

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