Looks like a direct competitor to Apple's airport series: http://www.apple.com/shop/product/ME918/airport-extreme
Nope. It is competitor for Apple TV which is going to be the hub for Apple Homekit devices.
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#302Very interesting. From looking at the specs, it looks like they're packaging a server and marketing it as a router. The configuration app is a very nice touch, routers have always a pain to configure. I'd love to stick this in my apartment (even though I can only receive a maximum of 10mb/s). As a side note, I'm surprised this isn't marketed alongside the Nest branch. It really has the look and feel of Nest products…
I think the best way to judge this product is as a hub for a smart home. The fact that it is an easy to wifi router is incidental (in spite of the fact that is all the marketing is talking about). It seems pretty clear, "onHub" is suppose to be a hub for a bunch of "on" branded smart home devices.
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#303Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Trust me. I don't trust people who say "Trust me." :)
I'm sure. No one ever believes me until I've been paid to fix it. I'm used to it.
It's less about your skills, and more about your presentation. "Honestly" and "Trust me" smack of salesmanship. It's a weird effect. Engineers try to be more persuasive by picking up, intentionally or not, vocabulary used for persuasion. Unfortunately, there is a lot of nuance that's hard to control.
Tighten up your writing, and perhaps speech, so you simply state the facts as you see them. This router will meet your needs because it has these 3 features. 1,2,3. It's much harder to argue with flat statements of fact as opposed to the salesmanship trick of, i would lie to most people but i like you so i'm going to tell you a secret.
Or, you know, don't. If it's not a problem for you don't waste time on it, but that's the underlying effect.
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#304Do they allow you to configure DNS, or do they force Google DNS use like on Chromecasts?
"OnHub sets your default DNS provider to Google Public DNS. (This can be changed in the Advanced Networking settings of the Google On app.)"
According to https://support.google.com/onhub/answer/6279845
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#305The market for this seems very small to me. Here in the UK, 99.9% of people just plug in whatever their ISP give them. They're not going to buy some box from Google to make their Internet faster. And even if they do, there's a good chance it wasn't the quality of the WiFi that was their problem, so they're just going to be pissed off at Google for taking their money and not fixing anything.
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#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the Terms of Service linked from the support site https://support.google.com/onhub/answer/6270620?hl=en&ref_to... "You agree that Google may collect and use technical and related information, including but not limited to information about your computer and/or mobile device, operating system, peripherals, applications, connected devices, network traffic, and data use to facilitate the provision of the Software an…
As wora points out, you're probably looking for https://support.google.com/onhub/answer/6279845 Unclear why they refer to it as "The OnHub Privacy FAQ" (implying proper noun) but then the page is called "OnHub, the Google On app and your privacy" and it's not structured as an FAQ. I can't find anything else it could refer to, though.
Thanks!
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#307I have a new-ish Tp-Link router that's been driving me utterly batty, so I'm looking forward to Google getting into this game. Hope they develop a full line of products, like having a second device for range-boosting.
Just an FYI, this is a TP-Link router that is being rebranded by Google. (TP-Link TGR1900)
Ouch.
I have an Asus/Google Nexus 7 2012 that makes me suspicious how much Google software and service can overcome underlying terrible hardware.
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#308I'm just curious why so many wireless routers are flakey, need frequently reset, have connection issues, etc. That, and what Google is actually doing differently than other high quality routers.
Most the consumer hardware networking industry is based on costs. Components are sourced based on the lowest cost and quality tends to be prioritized for SMB/enterprise products. Typically, routers are relatively inelastic in demand and industrial design, brand recognition, and price point make up the decision criteria for consumers. Testing is mostly spent on integrating all these various components and very little is spent on general UI. I'm a bit wary on Google's approach unless they have some great QA process or are bringing higher quality components to consumers at a lower price point. (Used to work for one of the big consumer networking companies)
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#309I'm just curious why so many wireless routers are flakey, need frequently reset, have connection issues, etc. That, and what Google is actually doing differently than other high quality routers.
Google seem to be approaching their marketing from a consumers perspective, capitalising on the common experience of flakey WiFi and shitty tech support telling you that "turning it off, waiting 30 seconds and on again" should "solve" the problem.
I'd imagine they've approached the design and development of this product from that angle too.