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Re: OnHub

#251

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Thread uses the same hardware and radio protocols as Zigbee but a different software layer on the top.

Which means this could easily get Thread support as one of the "software updates" to come out.

The FAQ on the specs page mentions Thread support.

Re: OnHub

#252

Interesting - but I'm not sure what this gives me over something in a similar price range, for example: http://www.amazon.com/RT-AC68U-Wireless-AC1900-Dual-Band-Gig... Presumably either you know something about routers and want to enable QoS, install your own firmware, or use some other advanced feature - and you spend money on a decent router. Or you don't, and use whatever your ISP provides (which if it's bad, you…

Google's router probably gives normal people a better UI. It's better to compare it to Apple's wifi router.

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#254

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You mean like phones locked on old versions of Android once Google moves on to new ones?

And don't they have Brillo? Having this without Brillo duplicates (particularly security related) effort and signals that Google doesn't consider Brillo to be acceptable for use in its own products. I imagine going w/ Brillo would have set back the release schedule, but Brillo, if their vision for both products were to come to pass, is by far the more consequential product. Also... The wireless router market isn't ex…

http://nextmarket.co/blogs/smarthomeweekly/29309313-google-i...

Going by how closely this matches the leaks, I think the onHub actually is running Brillo. They've just chosen not to mention it just yet.

Re: OnHub

#255
I'm not sure what the advantage of this is over any other router, other than vague 'built for all the ways you wifi'. Simplicity is nice, maybe this is trying to duplicate Nest-like success in the router realm, but people don't actively fiddle with routers like they do thermostats.

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#256
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> losing router credentials I suspect 95% of people do not change the default credentials, which are stickered or engraved on their routers.

> default credentials, which are stickered or engraved on their routers. Which having a seemingly random admin and wifi password with WPA pre-configured is better than no password. I remember a story where an individual connected to an open AP, scanned the network, found a windows network share with everyone read access, that had NES roms and their tax returns. The sad part, and still is true today, you couldn't help…

Sure you could -- just drop off a file someplace visible.

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#257

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I haven't had DSL in a while, but when I did, the ISP just provided a modem with a phone line connector and a single ethernet connector. There's no requirement for DSL to bundle the modem and router.

Sure, lots of DSL ISPs used to do that in the old days before WiFi was a common consumer demand, and some still might. Now, the ISPs that are using DSL (e.g., AT&T U-Verse which uses VDSL2 where it isn't FTTP) seem (from what I've experienced and seen with other people that have DSL-based service) to deploy all-in-one modem/routers (and, when they have services like TV and Phone as well as basic internet, to run them…

Gotcha, I thought it was being presented as some sort of technical constraint.

An interesting variant on all of this is FiOS, which is often brought into the house on coax which plugs into their router. It's possible to buy something that will bridge the coax to ethernet, but they're pretty hard to find.

I think this might be going away as they increase speeds. I originally had the coax, but then they replaced it with ethernet coming in to the house. I kept their router anyway because it actually seems to be pretty good.

Re: OnHub

#258

Interesting - but I'm not sure what this gives me over something in a similar price range, for example: http://www.amazon.com/RT-AC68U-Wireless-AC1900-Dual-Band-Gig... Presumably either you know something about routers and want to enable QoS, install your own firmware, or use some other advanced feature - and you spend money on a decent router. Or you don't, and use whatever your ISP provides (which if it's bad, you…

The AC68U is the perfect AP for the discerning user who enjoys going into the basement every two weeks to reboot things.

Why would you put your router in the basement? That's horrible for whole-house reception unless you have repeaters on each floor.

Re: OnHub

#259

So what does this device primarily do that I need right now? Just throttling internet for certain devices and prioritizing others? I'm not even entirely sure what 'uses smart software to find the best WiFi connection' means. What's the value prop here given the device costs $200? It's not like it can better your internet somehow.

It has a 3rd radio that monitors the channels you aren't currently using to see if any of them are better. The first two radios in the device can't switch without dropping connections, so they can't go hunting for new channels once the AP is turned on.

My Airport Extreme chooses channels automatically at boot time, then never again. This is fine for my house though, because my neighbors are reasonably far away.

At work, our Meraki AP has this kind of 3rd radio, and we get very good performance in a terrible RF environment, where lots of other equipment (from Apple and Ubiquiti) has failed.

Re: OnHub

#260

From [1] Get started Welcome! To set up your OnHub, you’ll also need: Google account Android or iOS device Broadband connection Google account? That seems like an unnecessary requirement for a router. [1] https://on.google.com/hub/support/#get-started

(Disclaimer: I work for the same former-division-of-Google-and-now-Alphabet-subsidiary that built this, though I don't work on OnHub.) I think you need an account for cloud-based configuration, credential sharing, etc. Maybe it's not for everyone, but I think it makes sense as a product. I highly doubt they added a Google account requirement to improve ad targeting.

    I highly doubt they added a Google account requirement
    to improve ad targeting.
You might be right but it's really hard for me to agree with you. It could be optional, but it appears not to be.
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