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Re: OnHub

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Post by btmorex »

thom_nic wrote: post #140

This is definitely like the Nest in that it's an "entry" into the home, clearly it has ambitions to be more than just a router. On the surface, a $200 router doesn't even make sense. 99% of the time congestion is probably not at the router/Wi-Fi level (any 5GHz wifi router should do) but somewhere upstream (ISP or WAN latency.) If you have a very large property there are plenty of routers already on the market with g…

Clearly, you don't live in a city. 2.4Ghz on any channel is nearly unusable in my apartment (5Ghz fairs better I think because it penetrates obstructions less easily). My laptop can currently detect >50 wifi networks.

Re: OnHub

#192

Post by danielsamuels »

blixt wrote: post #190

I wonder if these will be capable of lending spare (encrypted) bandwidth to anonymous mobile devices. I.e., can Google Fi[1] users benefit from Wi-Fi when walking past a house that has an OnHub running? [1] https://fi.google.com/about/

Two Google services working together? Don't be silly!

Re: OnHub

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Post by emilburzo »

Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but since it's a router thread, I'll go ahead.

I'm looking to buy a router with better performance than the Linksys E3200 that I currently have.

Lots of VMs, torrents with many connections, etc are taking a toll on it, especially towards the NAT connection count limit (wifi signal/speed is enough for me).

ERLite from Ubiquiti Networks seems interesting, but it's not so popular and I'm past the days where debugging routers was fun.

Any suggestions?

Re: OnHub

#194

Post by exelius »

snuxoll wrote: post #166
exelius wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not even a battle worth fighting; your average consumer router is significantly less powerful than what the cable company gives you. Even if you do get it in bridge mode, you'd need something more than a $200 consumer router to get the max speed out of it.

So not true, the RT-AC68U will walk circles around any eMTA an ISP will give you. The eMTA's cable companies give are expensive because a DOCSIS 3.0 modem is already $80 on average, adding a VoIP gateway and WLAN router plus a sufficient profit margin adds up.

Well, basically, a $200 home router will peak well before maxing out a 150 mbps connection unless you turn off all the QoS, UPnP and security features... but at that point you're better off just using the eMTA (which can handle the speed because it never had any of those features in the first place).

Re: OnHub

#195

Post by jayfk »

tdkl wrote: post #189
andrewla wrote: post #184

From [1] Get started Welcome! To set up your OnHub, you’ll also need: Google account Android or iOS device Broadband connection Google account? That seems like an unnecessary requirement for a router. [1] https://on.google.com/hub/support/#get-started

How can they link all collected data then ? Could be worse - a G+ account.

Yay, more wifi data. Android wasn't enough ;)

http://www.businessinsider.com/google-collecting-wi-fi-passw...

Re: OnHub

#196

Post by tomkinstinch »

zf00002 wrote: post #143
binarysolo wrote: post #6

$200 for the unit -- so it's competing on the higher end of consumer routers against offerings such as Apple's Airport. They seemed to have paid a lot of attention to human-friendly UI/UX though. Would probably wait for reviews to see what's up.

At $200 you're in the price range of just building yourself a pfsense box.

You could, but at that price it would most likely be a full desktop running pfsense, and who wants that kind of power draw at home? Comparable low-power pfsense boxes are about the same price, or even more for the ones advertised on the pfsense website[1].

The OnHub spec page mentions a draw of 1. http://store.pfsense.org/SG-2220/

2. https://on.google.com/hub/#specs

Re: OnHub

#197

Post by dethstar »

binarysolo wrote: post #6

$200 for the unit -- so it's competing on the higher end of consumer routers against offerings such as Apple's Airport. They seemed to have paid a lot of attention to human-friendly UI/UX though. Would probably wait for reviews to see what's up.

came here to comment on the UX. It makes sense, an average person should be able to detect if someone is connected to their wifi when no one should without knowing what DHCP is.

Re: OnHub

#198

Post by scott_karana »

Spooky23 wrote: post #188
andrewla wrote: post #184

From [1] Get started Welcome! To set up your OnHub, you’ll also need: Google account Android or iOS device Broadband connection Google account? That seems like an unnecessary requirement for a router. [1] https://on.google.com/hub/support/#get-started

Sounds a lot like the Meraki model. Makes sense... I'm sure one of the top consumer issues is losing router credentials.

> losing router credentials

I suspect 95% of people do not change the default credentials, which are stickered or engraved on their routers.

Re: OnHub

#199

Post by packetslave »

Hello71 wrote: post #114
jlgaddis wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With six 2.4 and 5 GHz antennas each, that's two antennas times three (non-overlapping) channels simultaneously in each band. Assuming it can somehow get device A to communicate on channel A and device B to communicate on channel C, etc., you could avoid some congestion while still allowing all those devices to maximize the available bandwidth. No $40 routers that I know of do anything like that.

meaning that if everyone in the neighborhood owns one, there will be six times as much congestion and everyone's internet access will be even slower than before!

you might consider learning how wifi actually works

Re: OnHub

#200

Post by api »

Here's one for the FAQ:

"Does OnHub send all my browsing information including SSL SNI header information to Google?"

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