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Re: OnHub

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Post by dvlsg »

jaboutboul wrote: post #64
christop wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the Terms of Service linked from the support site https://support.google.com/onhub/answer/6270620?hl=en&ref_to... "You agree that Google may collect and use technical and related information, including but not limited to information about your computer and/or mobile device, operating system, peripherals, applications, connected devices, network traffic, and data use to facilitate the provision of the Software an…

I wouldn't trust Google with this much access to my internet traffic.

I would if I got Google fiber speeds. For this, though? Probably not.

Re: OnHub

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Post by bizzleDawg »

ghola2k5 wrote: post #23

Coolest thing I see is on the NewEgg page where it says it's "weave" ready, and you can see the Zigbee/Bluetooth radios. It's a router, and it's the smart home hub.

I'm really surprised this part didn't generate more attention from the HN crowd. Currently IoT devices always end up having some kind of protocol adaptor unit, like wifi->zigbee and it sucks!

As far as I know, the Almond+ is the only other router with 802.15.4 support.

Re: OnHub

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Post by pibefision »

dazbradbury wrote: post #76

Interesting - but I'm not sure what this gives me over something in a similar price range, for example: http://www.amazon.com/RT-AC68U-Wireless-AC1900-Dual-Band-Gig... Presumably either you know something about routers and want to enable QoS, install your own firmware, or use some other advanced feature - and you spend money on a decent router. Or you don't, and use whatever your ISP provides (which if it's bad, you…

This router works great. Firmware is open source, timely updated, nice performance and some functionalities are very usefull (ie: asus hosted dynamic dyn dns, OpenVPN support and TimeCapsule compataibility).

Re: OnHub

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Post by dvlsg »

thrownaway2424 wrote: post #90
dazbradbury wrote: post #76

Interesting - but I'm not sure what this gives me over something in a similar price range, for example: http://www.amazon.com/RT-AC68U-Wireless-AC1900-Dual-Band-Gig... Presumably either you know something about routers and want to enable QoS, install your own firmware, or use some other advanced feature - and you spend money on a decent router. Or you don't, and use whatever your ISP provides (which if it's bad, you…

The AC68U is the perfect AP for the discerning user who enjoys going into the basement every two weeks to reboot things.

I've had mine for over a year now, and I've only had to reboot it 3 times - 4 if you count the time I unplugged it and moved to a new city.

Re: OnHub

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Post by CrazedGeek »

dvlsg wrote: post #124
thrownaway2424 wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The AC68U is the perfect AP for the discerning user who enjoys going into the basement every two weeks to reboot things.

I've had mine for over a year now, and I've only had to reboot it 3 times - 4 if you count the time I unplugged it and moved to a new city.

I've had mine for a similar time frame and I've never needed to restart it, except to install updates. My cable modem goes out more often.

Re: OnHub

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Post by dragonwriter »

RobotCaleb wrote: post #112
dragonwriter wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> More often than not, they're underspending on their networking equipment, not their ISP package. Often, their networking equipment is part of the ISP package because the ISP wants to provide a seamless experience, and doesn't even provide easy access to the information necessary to use your own equipment.

I don't even know what this means. Are you saying that your ISP doesn't allow you to plug standard ethernet devices into their lines? I own my own modem and router and do what I want with them. I don't follow you.

> Are you saying that your ISP doesn't allow you to plug standard ethernet devices into their lines?

Using your own router rather than the ISPs preconfigured router requires more than just plugging a personally-purchased router into their line (even in the simple case where you aren't using the ISPs bundled cable/phone/internet service that's all delivered through a common system.)

At least in the simple case, someone with modest technical skill can figure out how to get that information relatively easily, but most ISP customers aren't even modestly technical.

Re: OnHub

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Post by webXL »

The mobile Overview UI looks similar to Apple's Airport Utility. Looks like they took the best part (the graph). Hopefully the UI is more straightforward. Things got lost when Apple moved to version 6.0.

Re: OnHub

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Post by exelius »

wvenable wrote: post #120
chrisrhoden wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're not spending at least $100 on a wireless router, you're probably giving up significant amounts of the performance you're paying for from your ISP. Routers are computers. The $40 units just can't handle modern usage patterns (multiple phones / tablets / computers with relatively high speed caps) very well. It's my single biggest recommendation when people complain about the speed of the Internet in their hom…

My ISP provides an integrated modem/wifi router and they don't provide a bridge mode. I've long given up trying to fight against that with my own equipment.

It's not even a battle worth fighting; your average consumer router is significantly less powerful than what the cable company gives you. Even if you do get it in bridge mode, you'd need something more than a $200 consumer router to get the max speed out of it.

Re: OnHub

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Post by tomkinstinch »

Interesting that it has a TPM[1]. Any guesses about the uses/implications of that?

I wonder if it can be configured to act solely as an access point--I already have a ubnt EdgeRouter Lite, but wouldn't mind replacing my aging access point.

EDIT: It does support bridge mode[2].

1. https://on.google.com/hub/#specs

2. https://support.google.com/onhub/answer/6240987?hl=en&ref_to...

Re: OnHub

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Post by larrys »

freehunter wrote: post #96
driverdan wrote: post #87

Why would anyone want this over the latest Asus AC1900 router? Asus' web interface is easy to use and their QoS is surprisingly good out of the box. Also, Asus isn't going to spy on everything you do.

Because it's pretty, it's made by Google, and look at all of the fancy marketing they've done. More seriously, it offers a lot more integration with non-wifi wireless devices than the Asus does, tighter integration with Android and other Google services, and some value-add features like password-less pairing and a friendly app.

"look at all of the fancy marketing they've done"

They are trying to be Apple even the design seems close to what Apple might do at least to my eye. The thing is Apple does this and gets business because there was a core of important and vital products and software that got people using Apple for a different reason. So if I buy (as I have) Apple's Airport extreme it's because I am buying other Apple products. I can't say if that weren't the case that would be what I would go with. (I mean I might but since I am already buying the brand I am biased and just go for the IBM choice so to speak...).

My point is that a company can't simply take a product here and a product there and hope to have great success with just a great isolated device for a particular purpose.

Which means that since google is not stupid they must be doing this for another reason (as others have mentioned). They aren't doing it because they honestly expect and need to sell routers and make money from that or even another play that they are building on that we don't know about. Must be something else going on here.

Lastly, end users in flyover country don't care about all of this unless they know about or have a particular problem. And how many people even have these problems? (I don't as only one example..) If they did they would be protesting outside of cable companies and demanding better remote controls for their fios or comcast dvr's.

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