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Re: OnHub

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Post by jlgaddis » Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 5:05 PM UTC

blakeyrat wrote: post #70

impish19 wrote: post #51

So what does this device primarily do that I need right now? Just throttling internet for certain devices and prioritizing others? I'm not even entirely sure what 'uses smart software to find the best WiFi connection' means. What's the value prop here given the device costs $200? It's not like it can better your internet somehow.

The only way I can interpret that quote is, "it can automatically switch wifi radio channels when the one its using gets congested". I don't know, maybe there's more to it than that. Because $40 routers can do that.

With six 2.4 and 5 GHz antennas each, that's two antennas times three (non-overlapping) channels simultaneously in each band. Assuming it can somehow get device A to communicate on channel A and device B to communicate on channel C, etc., you could avoid some congestion while still allowing all those devices to maximize the available bandwidth.

No $40 routers that I know of do anything like that.

Re: OnHub

#92

Post by wora » Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 5:06 PM UTC

christop wrote: post #28

The only privacy link I could find on the page was Google's generic privacy policy. Is there more information somewhere? With its "advanced and always-evolving security features", I'm wondering whether and what information Google would be gathering about my local network and my network traffic.

There is one here: https://support.google.com/onhub/answer/6279845

Re: OnHub

#93

Post by exelius » Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 5:06 PM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #72

exelius wrote: post #13

Hopefully this device actually has the CPU power to run QOS at more than 50mbps... the same can't be said of any other consumer router in the $200 price range.

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The specs are on the OnHub page at the bottom :) Looks like it's using a Qualcomm IPQ8064; which is a dual-core ARM design. I don't know what other devices use this CPU so I can't compare, but if I had to guess this device probably tops out around 100mbps if NAT and QoS are turned on.

Re: OnHub

#94

Post by fs111 » Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 5:06 PM UTC

keehun wrote: post #65

impish19 wrote: post #51

So what does this device primarily do that I need right now? Just throttling internet for certain devices and prioritizing others? I'm not even entirely sure what 'uses smart software to find the best WiFi connection' means. What's the value prop here given the device costs $200? It's not like it can better your internet somehow.

It does have prioritizing: https://support.google.com/onhub/answer/6246483

any plastic router has some sort of QoS build in. This seems to have a nicer UI though.

Re: OnHub

#95

Post by snaky » Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 5:07 PM UTC

driverdan wrote: post #87

Why would anyone want this over the latest Asus AC1900 router? Asus' web interface is easy to use and their QoS is surprisingly good out of the box. Also, Asus isn't going to spy on everything you do.

Why would anyone want the router not supported by OpenWRT?

> Asus isn't going to spy on everything you do

How do you know that?

Re: OnHub

#96

Post by freehunter » Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 5:07 PM UTC

driverdan wrote: post #87

Why would anyone want this over the latest Asus AC1900 router? Asus' web interface is easy to use and their QoS is surprisingly good out of the box. Also, Asus isn't going to spy on everything you do.

Because it's pretty, it's made by Google, and look at all of the fancy marketing they've done.

More seriously, it offers a lot more integration with non-wifi wireless devices than the Asus does, tighter integration with Android and other Google services, and some value-add features like password-less pairing and a friendly app.

Re: OnHub

#97

Post by sixdimensional » Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 5:07 PM UTC

anonymuse wrote: post #62

From the design goals outlined in the FAQ, it seems clear to me that Google expects there to be a great deal more bandwidth hungry devices in the home speaking first to each other, and then out to the WAN, in the near term. Including Bluetooth, Weave, and Thread, along with up to 128 devices, gives me a rough sense of the scale of connected devices they anticipate in each home. Given that it also has a reasonable com…

...likely part of their "Internet of Things" strategy.

Re: OnHub

#98

Post by squidbidness » Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 5:07 PM UTC

tantalor wrote: post #73

jcfrei wrote: post #31

Here in CH virtually everyone receives a modem/router combo for free from their provider (ie. they borrow it to you). They are also usually preconfigured - so you just need to plug them in. Is it the same in the US? I guess at a 199$ price point this will be a tough sell.

CH = Switzerland?

Oui, ja, si, gea, yes.

Re: OnHub

#99

Post by mihok » Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 5:08 PM UTC

adriancooney wrote: post #3

Very interesting. From looking at the specs, it looks like they're packaging a server and marketing it as a router. The configuration app is a very nice touch, routers have always a pain to configure. I'd love to stick this in my apartment (even though I can only receive a maximum of 10mb/s). As a side note, I'm surprised this isn't marketed alongside the Nest branch. It really has the look and feel of Nest products…

What specs are you talking about specifically? It doesn't look like a server at all.

Re: OnHub

#100

Post by mrtalented » Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 5:08 PM UTC

I've been dogfooding the device for about 4 months now. Before, I was using the previous generation Airport Extreme. It is far better - the app makes it super simple to set up, the signal seems to be stronger throughout my apartment, and I love having a convenient way to monitor / admin it remotely (via the app). Well worth the price imo.

>inb4 shill :)