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Steve Jobs’s Interview with Red Herring (1996)

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Re: Steve Jobs’s Interview with Red Herring (1996)

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Gotta love those timescales! I don't know what you can build in 4 hours but the Fedex (even in 1996) certainly is somewhat hyperbolic! "For example, it took Federal Express four months to build its Web site – using WebObjects, you could build that same site in four hours."

Depends what it did at the time :)

Re: Steve Jobs’s Interview with Red Herring (1996)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was an amazing man. All of the hate is because he dared to follow that vision where it went, instead of merely being a vendor of software for Microsoft, or subservient to Google (eg: Apple built the entire infrastructure to do maps merely because Google wanted to sell apple customers information.) I've yet to meet a Steve Jobs hater who actually understood what the guy did. The steve jobs hate is all ideological a…

I'd suggest reading any of his biographies or watching Pirates of Silicon Valley. My problem is not with Apple at all, it's with the man himself.

No no no. Like the Steve Jobs fanboy said - you hate him because he made Apple and changed the world.

You don't hate him because he treated his employees like shit. Screwed many of them out of stock options. Turned his back on his own child. Created one of the largest walled gardens in the IT world. yada yada yada.

Get over your PC Master Race ideals, bro.

Re: Steve Jobs’s Interview with Red Herring (1996)

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It's 1996 and they're tossing around the term "apps."

Well you had "application servers" for the web very shortly after the first web and mail servers. It was a super hot early category; Netscape bought Kiva I think and Sun bought NetDynamics (whose founder ended up running Sun at the end believe it or not) So it really was a common term back then. Initially it was "web apps" then it was just shortened.

Re: Steve Jobs’s Interview with Red Herring (1996)

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It's 1996 and they're tossing around the term "apps."

This surprised me too. Of course I'm not surprised to learn that the term was used before it was popularized for iOS devices, but I'm VERY surprised to see it thrown about so liberally in this article. I really don't remember the term back then.

This is different than my experience. I distinctly remember many magazines offering their reviews of "killer apps."

Re: Steve Jobs’s Interview with Red Herring (1996)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd suggest reading any of his biographies or watching Pirates of Silicon Valley. My problem is not with Apple at all, it's with the man himself.

What has he done to you to make you so upset about him?

That's a very odd question to ask. I mentioned a distaste for him, not any sort of active upset. Kim Jong Un (deliberately avoiding reductio ad hitlerum) has done nothing to me personally, and I have to say I'm not a fan.

Edit: I don't like the way he treat his friends, family, staff or even applicants, details you can get by reading the biographies or watching the documentaries as I've said before.

Re: Steve Jobs’s Interview with Red Herring (1996)

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The Herring: What do you think about Netscape’s vision that someday soon we will all be automatically hooked to the Net when we boot up our computers, and their Navigator platform will be our primary interface to the world? Jobs: I wish the world could work that easily, but it doesn’t. You are talking about ideas, I am talking about reality.

20 years later with Chromebooks this finally happened.

More so with Firefox OS, since it is a descendant of Netscape.

Re: Steve Jobs’s Interview with Red Herring (1996)

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd suggest reading any of his biographies or watching Pirates of Silicon Valley. My problem is not with Apple at all, it's with the man himself.

What has he done to you to make you so upset about him?

Well you explicitly said you had a problem with him, not his company Apple. Then referenced him next to the North Korean leader.

You clearly have an issue with him? It's just interesting to see what that may be and whether it might able to be substantiated.

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