Reminds me of the Prora, a weird Nazi hotel compound on the Baltic Sea that was never finished: http://www.amusingplanet.com/2013/01/the-10000-bedroom-nazi-...
A 61-year-old hotel that has never had a guest
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#22Oh italy, you never change :)
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#23This is just par for the course in China. It is all about money laundering and not real mismanagement, the reasons are all "unclear" because these buildings are not built to be actually used...lots of corners are cuts and pockets are padded. So having an excuse not to open works out, and places the inevitable outrage into the next or next next administration.
Maybe, but (apparently) in China many dead malls that were never really used were built simply to raise the GDP.
http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-ghost-cities-in-2014-2...
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#24This is just par for the course in China. It is all about money laundering and not real mismanagement, the reasons are all "unclear" because these buildings are not built to be actually used...lots of corners are cuts and pockets are padded. So having an excuse not to open works out, and places the inevitable outrage into the next or next next administration.
>It is all about money laundering Maybe, but (apparently) in China many dead malls that were never really used were built simply to raise the GDP. http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-ghost-cities-in-2014-2...
We would be better off paying migrant workers to dig and fill in holes. Then at least you wouldn't have a monstrosity to tear down in a few years.
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#25Reminds me of the Prora, a weird Nazi hotel compound on the Baltic Sea that was never finished: http://www.amusingplanet.com/2013/01/the-10000-bedroom-nazi-...
Interesting that kraft is analogous to both strength and skill in German. Similarly in old Norse it's both strength and virtue. In English craft is defined as skill, i.e. in making things, yet Northwestern European languages place an emphasis on strength. I wonder if it's because as the language developed it was a time when making things required more strength than mental discipline/skill, such as lifting logs and stone for constructing shelter, roads, retaining walls etc.
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#26Reminds me of the Prora, a weird Nazi hotel compound on the Baltic Sea that was never finished: http://www.amusingplanet.com/2013/01/the-10000-bedroom-nazi-...
> "Strength through Joy" ("Kraft durch Freude," KdF) Interesting that kraft is analogous to both strength and skill in German. Similarly in old Norse it's both strength and virtue. In English craft is defined as skill, i.e. in making things, yet Northwestern European languages place an emphasis on strength. I wonder if it's because as the language developed it was a time when making things required more strength than…
"Kraft" can have a spiritual meaning of sorts (vitalize) though. "Kraft schöpfen" is often used to sort of mean gather your thoughts and get revitalized. That's how it's used in KdF. I guess "mental strength" fits most closely in the KdF example.
There's also an old-ish word "Geisteskraft" which means something like mental strength. However it does have a different connotation than skill.
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> "Strength through Joy" ("Kraft durch Freude," KdF) Interesting that kraft is analogous to both strength and skill in German. Similarly in old Norse it's both strength and virtue. In English craft is defined as skill, i.e. in making things, yet Northwestern European languages place an emphasis on strength. I wonder if it's because as the language developed it was a time when making things required more strength than…
I wouldn't say "Kraft" is analogous to skill in German. In fact I'd be willing to say it's never used in that sense. "Fähigkeit", "Fertigkeit", "Kompetenz" and a few others are usually used for "skill". "Kraft" can have a spiritual meaning of sorts (vitalize) though. "Kraft schöpfen" is often used to sort of mean gather your thoughts and get revitalized. That's how it's used in KdF. I guess "mental strength" fits mos…
I stand corrected. Based on a quick search, what I gather is that kraft tends to be used (in conjunction with other words) to define forms of force.
Thanks for taking the time to explain in-depth.
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>It is all about money laundering Maybe, but (apparently) in China many dead malls that were never really used were built simply to raise the GDP. http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-ghost-cities-in-2014-2...
That is the official excuse, but those malls are crappy, where did the money really go? Bank lends money to SOE, SOE is told by CPC to build, SOE contracts out to some cronies, cronies subcontract out to more cronies, and so on...lots of cuts are taken, and finally something cruddy gets built that isn't useable but it doesn't matter since it isn't needed anyways. We would be better off paying migrant workers to dig a…
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I wouldn't say "Kraft" is analogous to skill in German. In fact I'd be willing to say it's never used in that sense. "Fähigkeit", "Fertigkeit", "Kompetenz" and a few others are usually used for "skill". "Kraft" can have a spiritual meaning of sorts (vitalize) though. "Kraft schöpfen" is often used to sort of mean gather your thoughts and get revitalized. That's how it's used in KdF. I guess "mental strength" fits mos…
> In fact I'd be willing to say it's never used in that sense. I stand corrected. Based on a quick search, what I gather is that kraft tends to be used (in conjunction with other words) to define forms of force. Thanks for taking the time to explain in-depth.
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That is the official excuse, but those malls are crappy, where did the money really go? Bank lends money to SOE, SOE is told by CPC to build, SOE contracts out to some cronies, cronies subcontract out to more cronies, and so on...lots of cuts are taken, and finally something cruddy gets built that isn't useable but it doesn't matter since it isn't needed anyways. We would be better off paying migrant workers to dig a…
Tearing down monstrosities doesn't seem all that worse to filling the holes back in to me!