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i am still struggling to understand how this is important, and why we should care. men have struggles just the same, this is like reverse sexism.
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that's all fine and dandy, but no one is bitching about the fact we have very very very few men working in the child care industry, for instance... better start subsidizing their jobs too? men and women were both given the same choice of universities and classes in high school. the tech sector did not turn its back on women or minorities, they turned their back on it. now that its profitable they want a piece of that…
Yes, I am all for greater male participation in the child-care industry. (I really am!) So say we all. Are you satisfied? Will you now please join us on in constructively discussing the exclusion of women from tech, law, science, politics, accounting, carpentry, the military... and how to fix it? If the child care industry were representative of men's exclusion from most high paying, socially powerful fields, then I…
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that's all fine and dandy, but no one is bitching about the fact we have very very very few men working in the child care industry, for instance... better start subsidizing their jobs too? men and women were both given the same choice of universities and classes in high school. the tech sector did not turn its back on women or minorities, they turned their back on it. now that its profitable they want a piece of that…
Yes, people are bitching about the lack of men in childcare. Go seek out child development communities online and see them wrestling with the problem! See men who try to et into childcare complain that they are assumed to be incapable of working in early-years education because they might be a pedophile! It's a huge problem, and one we should get upset about. On teaching and child development forums these exact issue…
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Yes, I am all for greater male participation in the child-care industry. (I really am!) So say we all. Are you satisfied? Will you now please join us on in constructively discussing the exclusion of women from tech, law, science, politics, accounting, carpentry, the military... and how to fix it? If the child care industry were representative of men's exclusion from most high paying, socially powerful fields, then I…
> But, as it is, the child-care field is not a field that a lot of men would like to get into, it pays fairly poorly, (unfortunately) confers little power or respect, and is largely an anomaly in an economy where most jobs, especially powerful ones are dominated by men. Its actually not really an anomaly for jobs that pay fairly poorly and confer little power or respect to be dominated by women and/or persistently di…
none of which get neither money nor respect.
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Yes, people are bitching about the lack of men in childcare. Go seek out child development communities online and see them wrestling with the problem! See men who try to et into childcare complain that they are assumed to be incapable of working in early-years education because they might be a pedophile! It's a huge problem, and one we should get upset about. On teaching and child development forums these exact issue…
interesting, i was unaware of a movement in childcare to get more men involved. i do think it similar to tech, in that(historically) if a man said he wanted to run a daycare for a career, it would have raised eyebrows. just as a woman saying she wanted to be a software engineer might have at a time. that said, in the above reference. the man would still, to this day, get a lot of strange looks for picking that as a c…
Why do you think women feel the need to create websites like this (https://mixpanel.com/i-am-tech/) in the first place if the idea of being a woman in tech is only "historically" eyebrow-raising?
The assumption that sexism is, like racism, one of those things that people used to do in the 1950s, is really not helpful.
Why should I care about more social justice demagoguery? I couldn't care less if you have a penis, testicles, breasts, vagina, uterus, or whatever combinations of said organs this unique little butterfly has. "What have you done, and what are you working on?" are important to me. And auxiliary to that would be "What life happenings lead you to addressing those questions?". I'm also curious how they learned the skills…
Kids, this isn't hard. Just apply a little logic. Statements like "all I care about is what you have done/created/accomplished" is predicated on the notion that everyone is already equal. That we all have the same access to opportunity, encouragement, resources, etc. Whether through malice or simple disinterest, you've managed to hold onto a basic assumption that would be exceedingly trivial for you to disprove. And…
You're implying that you're so clever, perceptive and knowledgeable that you can make the entire industry "fair" by reverse-discriminating in all the right cases? Hah. That's exactly how various flavors of discrimination pop up and solidify in the first place. Plus, the law of unintended consequences will always take its toll.
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Kids, this isn't hard. Just apply a little logic. Statements like "all I care about is what you have done/created/accomplished" is predicated on the notion that everyone is already equal. That we all have the same access to opportunity, encouragement, resources, etc. Whether through malice or simple disinterest, you've managed to hold onto a basic assumption that would be exceedingly trivial for you to disprove. And…
>That we all have the same access to opportunity, encouragement, resources, etc. Taking this to its logical conclusion then. Are you saying that "What have you done, and what are you working on?" is sexist because focusing on if people are working on something useful is sexist? If so, you are implying that women are not as useful, which sort of contradicts the idea that women are being underpaid for doing the same wo…
Either pat them on their heads and go "Good try", or pretend that the females you hired are "equal" (animal farm) and put them in dumb roles.
In the end, you really can't force women to study something they don't like, like Calculus and Physics, the requirements for Computer Science. Afterall, they're independent, and they will study whatever they want in college, which is usally Liberal Arts, Teaching, Psychology, or Biology. But never math, or physics.
Really hard to hire women in tech. Whenever I interviewed them, turned out they only studied Liberal Arts in college. That is very unqualified. And for the few ones that studied Physics, Engineering, or Computer Science in College, Google and other major compnies alredy hired to them all. So again, no luck there either. In the end, you really can't force women to study something they don't like, like Calculus and Phy…
Your assumption that women don't like these topics is wrong. I'd encourage you to seek an alternative explanation for why you are having trouble hiring women.
Really hard to hire women in tech. Whenever I interviewed them, turned out they only studied Liberal Arts in college. That is very unqualified. And for the few ones that studied Physics, Engineering, or Computer Science in College, Google and other major compnies alredy hired to them all. So again, no luck there either. In the end, you really can't force women to study something they don't like, like Calculus and Phy…
There's plenty of women that study math and physics. I know this because they were in my classes in CS, math and physics, and beside me on graduation day. Your assumption that women don't like these topics is wrong. I'd encourage you to seek an alternative explanation for why you are having trouble hiring women.
Just because you have a degree in something doesn't mean you're will go into that field. A lot graduates ended up with a career different from their degree. Most of the time, the degree is used just as a 'certificate that i finished college' to get a job.
The problem is, women are not entering STEM careers. They don't want to. And certain people are trying to force STEM down their throat, without their consent.
You can't hire women if they're not in STEM, you can't hire them if they've decided to work in some other field instead.