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Lovin' their elevator: why Germans are loopy about paternosters

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Re: Lovin' their elevator: why Germans are loopy about paternosters

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There really aren't many of them here in Germany. Funnily, the only one I ever used was in the UK, in Attenborough Tower at the University of Leicester. Never seen one in Germany, but here's a (probably incomplete) list of known paternosters worldwide: http://www.flemming-hamburg.de/patlist.htm

Re: Lovin' their elevator: why Germans are loopy about paternosters

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Sadly they are slowly disappearing. Mainly because of safety reasons, they are considered dangerous.

Security is not the main issue. The main issue is accessibility. A disabled person or a person with a baby carriage cannot use them. It becomes a security issue when they do.

100 years ago, accessibility was not an issue.

Re: Lovin' their elevator: why Germans are loopy about paternosters

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It seems like there should be a way to build these in a safe way. For example, angling the ceiling of the compartment as well as where the ceiling of the building meets the compartment should offer quite a lot more safety:

http://i.imgur.com/CJbf1oq.png

You could also imagine 'sprung' walls between the compartments that prevent limbs/feet from getting squashed.

As for accessibility for disabled persons, I see no reason why a paternoster can't be switched to 'elevator mode'. You can hit a button on the wall that will stop the system when the next compartment reaches your floor, get inside with your wheelchair/baby carriage/grandpa, and push a button inside the compartment before the floor you want to get off at to do the same.

Re: Lovin' their elevator: why Germans are loopy about paternosters

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The article misses important points about the reason for the outcry on the proposed law. Many people here are fed up with the overregulating nanny state with more and more unnecessary rules imposed by inept control freaks like Andrea Nahles. She also seems to have difficulties with judging the impact of her ideas. There are now way too many similar the her in today's politics (throughout most of the political parties in Germany).

Re: Lovin' their elevator: why Germans are loopy about paternosters

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Sadly they are slowly disappearing. Mainly because of safety reasons, they are considered dangerous.

As fun as they seem to be, they definitely sound dangerous, especially with kids around.

I wonder if they couldn't be retrofitted with some safety device, like sensors stopping the motion if some object crosses the door when the elevator is above a certain height, respective to the floor.

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