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Re: Markdown and LaTeX Editor

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Is the HTML generation with backlinks from an external lib or custom built for softcover? I'm working on a CMS and this would be fantastic to use as a module for writing articles.

Not sure exactly what you mean by "backlinks", but most of the software is custom-built.

ah. backlink = back references, Figure 1.1 and link to the Figure 1.1 :)

What your license for the project? If we wanted to use it, we'd porting it to Go and JS with our own stylized CSS.

Re: Markdown and LaTeX Editor

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Not sure exactly what you mean by "backlinks", but most of the software is custom-built.

ah. backlink = back references, Figure 1.1 and link to the Figure 1.1 :) What your license for the project? If we wanted to use it, we'd porting it to Go and JS with our own stylized CSS.

Cross-references are all custom. License is MIT. [1] Porting would likely be a huge PITA.

[1]: http://github.com/softcover/softcover

Re: Markdown and LaTeX Editor

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Softcover handles Markdown + embedded LaTeX on your local machine (no 'net connection required) using a standard text editor and web browser: http://softcover.io/ I use Softcover to write and maintain both the code-heavy Ruby on Rails Tutorial ( http://railstutorial.org/book ) and the math-heavy Tau Manifesto ( http://tauday.com/tau-manifesto ). ( Disclosure : I'm also the principal author of Softcover.)

I just watched your video and I think your tool is exactly what I'm looking for! Downloading it now. In the meantime, I was wondering if you ever compose on your iPad? What is your workflow for that?

Here's an iPad app that does Markdown + LaTeX: http://eqeditor.com/writer/ and then outputs HTML, ePub, etc. Not sure if it's exactly what you need but there you go.

Re: Markdown and LaTeX Editor

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I'm curious as to the percentage of users here that use Markdown regularly? I'm one of the founders of Overleaf, and we've found that our users tend to either want to be able to edit in full LaTeX or want to avoid the need to code even in markdown (hence the reason we built a rich text layer for overleaf[1]) If you do use Markdown regularly, how often does it allow you to do everything you need (i.e. how often do you…

I love TeX and LaTex. I've been using TeX even before LaTeX was available. However, I barely use it any more and write most documents in Markdown.

To turn your question upside down, the reason I don't use TeX and LaTeX any more (despite being quite invested in it) is that I rarely care about the quality of output any more. I'm more interested in the text editor representation.

For the types of documents I write (about software, very rarely doing any math) Markdown's syntax is just simpler and quicker. It produces readable HTML output with code syntax highlighting. That's all I want.

If I need to typeset something, I will go back to TeX/LaTeX. I'm afraid, though, that I'm not a good fit for overleaf as I am already invested in the concept of splitting composition from presentation. When I am writing, I specifically don't care about (and would rather not have) anything showing me what the final output is going to look like.

Typesetting is a completely different process for me. Once I have a good portion of the document written (sometimes all of it), then I will start looking at presentation. I'm also one of the crazy people who writes his own styles in TeX ;-)

What's interesting is that the last time I used LaTeX, I actually wrote my own markup language (similar to markdown) and had a build step that would convert it to LaTeX. This was because I was doing a lot of writing with very weird formatting (non-standard output of furigana in Japanese where I displayed both the Chinese characters, the Japanese reading of the characters, and the romanization of that reading). Doing that with TeX macros would have worn my fingers off.

So I suppose to sum up, since I don't need precise typesetting in most of my documents, Markdown is "good enough" and it is easier to type. When I do need precise typesetting, TeX/LaTeX is what I go for, but even then I would rather write in a markdown style DSL and translate to TeX which I can output. As much as I love TeX, it really does suck compared to any modern macro language. LaTeX gives a semi-nice veneer, but it still isn't optimal. Pushing it off to one side is how I cope ;-)

Re: Markdown and LaTeX Editor

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I'm curious as to the percentage of users here that use Markdown regularly? I'm one of the founders of Overleaf, and we've found that our users tend to either want to be able to edit in full LaTeX or want to avoid the need to code even in markdown (hence the reason we built a rich text layer for overleaf[1]) If you do use Markdown regularly, how often does it allow you to do everything you need (i.e. how often do you…

I have a content platform (medical app) where our clients create or upload a significant percentage of the content. Although markdown has its limitations, as well as a barrier to entry for the non-technical user, it enables us to make sure our content is uniform in appearance with minimal style guides. A good markdown table editor would be a real winner, and some f the better open source editors don't have a consiste…

> A good markdown table editor would be a real winner

All I want is markdown with orgmode tables. Never gotten around to do it myself, but how hard can it be? I really have to wonder about why the Web2.0+ crowd think tables should never be used for anything, especially not by content editors.

Re: Markdown and LaTeX Editor

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Firstly, thanks for helping spread the word about Overleaf, that's much appreciated! If you're still demoing with it, feel free to join our Advisors programme [1] (it comes with a free Pro+ account amongst other things!) Be very interested to hear how you get on with your current paper -- it is one you're working on independently or do you have co-authors? If it's the latter, do you have a workflow for handling the c…

I should be thanking you. The issue we have is that science-type students have no problem working with LaTeX. Our humanities students on the other hand will use MS Word which as we all know is completely suboptimal for creating long structured documents with lists of tables, figures, and so on. We've found that by importing our university branded template into Overleaf and getting to our humanities students to think…

    is completely suboptimal for creating long structured documents
I actually saw many science students work very well with MS Word. They knew how to use it and liked it, whereas I completely despised it as I was never able to fit an image properly for example. To me, LaTeX seemed completely logical and superior to MS Word, but I have seen long documents typeset using Word also.

The people who liked MS Word had no programming knowledge, if that's an indicator ;)

Re: Markdown and LaTeX Editor

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I'm quite amazed at how responsive it feels compared to sharelatex or the likes. It's extremely simple. I like it. I may not use it myself, but I'll mention it to friends who are learning LaTeX.

I run the ShareLaTeX open-source version and it renders a PDF each time I want to see the changes I made. With ShareLaTeX I can exactly see how the end product will look, something you can't do with this app. It's much less responsive, but having a PDF is a bigger advantage to me.

Re: Markdown and LaTeX Editor

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When it comes to Markdown its main advantage is not its features (it does not have many), but its simplicity (and ability to edit it in a text editor - blazing fast, no distractions, etc). And then I can convert it to anything. Vs LaTeX - sometimes I need just to note (a to do list, a draft of a blog post, an outline of workshop), without the boilerplate or visual noise of LaTeX. (And I wrote more than a dozen of pap…

That's a good summary, and the ability to easily convert to e.g. html is definitely a plus point for markdown. I always find however that I'd rather either work in html (for any web content), LaTeX (for any research papers or lengthy docs) or plain text (for notes)... I never found markdown quite useful enough in any of those cases (it has been a while since I last gave it a serious test though).

GitHub README.md files are a nice example for use case.

It is a text file, but which can use lists, code inclusions, links and images (the later are not available in text mode... unless you want to do ASCII art).

When it comes to notes opinion vary. Some use Markdown (BTW: for notes I only keep them in the plain text mode - so the only difference is some highlighting), some org-mode, some various other tools.

Re: Markdown and LaTeX Editor

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I'm curious as to the percentage of users here that use Markdown regularly? I'm one of the founders of Overleaf, and we've found that our users tend to either want to be able to edit in full LaTeX or want to avoid the need to code even in markdown (hence the reason we built a rich text layer for overleaf[1]) If you do use Markdown regularly, how often does it allow you to do everything you need (i.e. how often do you…

I used Overleaf to write my most recent paper, as it is incredibly useful for collaborating on documents. I think the coauthor was similarly impressed. I've never used Markdown (in fact this is the first I've heard of it) and always write in full Latex. There are a lot of equations involved, and I like to use some of the fine control that Latex gives you over the formatting. Plus, everyone in my field is expected to know Latex.
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