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Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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This is 3rd article this week I've been blocked from reading. How are people continually reading and upvoting these links? Is everyone a subscriber? Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/FGY1lSv.png

Here you go :) https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...

May I ask how you did that?

Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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This is 3rd article this week I've been blocked from reading. How are people continually reading and upvoting these links? Is everyone a subscriber? Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/FGY1lSv.png

I'm a bit mystified. The link goes to an empty article but if you google the exact title, you will be taken to the full article which... has the exact same URL. I don't know what kind of wizardry this is.

They're looking at the HTTP referer [sic]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_referer

Most newspapers don't show paywalls to users coming from a search engine, as part of a compromise with Google to prevent them from being penalized in rankings.

Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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This is 3rd article this week I've been blocked from reading. How are people continually reading and upvoting these links? Is everyone a subscriber? Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/FGY1lSv.png

I'm a bit mystified. The link goes to an empty article but if you google the exact title, you will be taken to the full article which... has the exact same URL. I don't know what kind of wizardry this is.

Not wizardry. Checking referer.

" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_referer>

Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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Do you think they have a special deal w/ Amazon? Otherwise I imagine that's a really expensive bill. Do you think they're doing it because its cheaper when you account for things at a larger scale? Like, reduced liabilities, payrolls, CapEx, whatever? Or is it more expensive but still "easier" and they go with it? I really REALLY would like to hear everything from everyone about this, because right now I'm facing tha…

You should talk to people who have done this IRL, not on HN. This is a difficult thing to pull off, and like any complex decision, there's a lot of trade-offs. Without knowing your specific situation, it's fair to say that volume helps out Netflix a lot, and you won't get anything close to the unit costs they have.

The major thing that sways people to one side or the other is the kind of problems they want to build an organization to cope with. Do you want to build an engineering team that can handle a whole availability zone in Amazon going out, or do you want to hire one that eeks performance out of bare metal? Do you want a sales organization that has to go to the mat over security details, or a marketing organization that has to cope with justifying why "you're not a cloud company, you don't use the cloud" in their brand? There's going to be bumps either way.

Source: I used to sell monitoring software, so I got to talk to a lot of people making this decision. We tended to find big opps when people made the move.

Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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This is 3rd article this week I've been blocked from reading. How are people continually reading and upvoting these links? Is everyone a subscriber? Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/FGY1lSv.png

I'm a bit mystified. The link goes to an empty article but if you google the exact title, you will be taken to the full article which... has the exact same URL. I don't know what kind of wizardry this is.

Isn't it just referer headers?

Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a bit mystified. The link goes to an empty article but if you google the exact title, you will be taken to the full article which... has the exact same URL. I don't know what kind of wizardry this is.

Not wizardry. Checking referer. " rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_referer>

Indistinguishible form magic

Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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This is 3rd article this week I've been blocked from reading. How are people continually reading and upvoting these links? Is everyone a subscriber? Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/FGY1lSv.png

For me it didn't even load the ad, I just saw the "log in" at the bottom and a blank page. "who needs an article when you can have a headline?"

Same for me. It must be the ad-blocker (uBlock)

Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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Netflix is still running its own CDNs / using CDNs outside of Amazon. "The company, which competes with Amazon in the video-streaming business, elected to keep control of its own content delivery network." So Netflix is still probably doing the bulk of their traffic themselves. Application servers with AWS is probably not a huge bill versus massive video traffic.

I was wondering about that. Open Connect was significant in the disagreement between Netflix and Comcast that spurred the net neutrality debate. Unless I'm mistaken Netflix ended up agreeing to the peering fees, though after negotiating down a bit. So does using AWS for mundane traffic actually save them money by avoiding the CDN bandwidth that Netflix has to pay ISPs to use?
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