Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter • Hacker News Board

Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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Post by wmf » Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 5:02 AM UTC

enobrev wrote: post #8

This may just be a semantic issue, but the term "public" seems entirely misused in this article.

For better or worse, "public cloud, in which users share the resources of a service provider" is now an accepted term of art in the industry. It doesn't really matter whether it agrees with people's commonsense understanding of the word "public".

Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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Post by wmf » Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 5:05 AM UTC

anotherangrydev wrote: post #10

Do you think they have a special deal w/ Amazon? Otherwise I imagine that's a really expensive bill. Do you think they're doing it because its cheaper when you account for things at a larger scale? Like, reduced liabilities, payrolls, CapEx, whatever? Or is it more expensive but still "easier" and they go with it? I really REALLY would like to hear everything from everyone about this, because right now I'm facing tha…

If you watch any of Cockcroft's presentations you can see that there's nothing easy about it. They developed a significant amount of tooling just to work around quirks in EC2, but apparently the elasticity is worth it.

Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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Post by marcog1 » Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 5:05 AM UTC

anotherangrydev wrote: post #10

Do you think they have a special deal w/ Amazon? Otherwise I imagine that's a really expensive bill. Do you think they're doing it because its cheaper when you account for things at a larger scale? Like, reduced liabilities, payrolls, CapEx, whatever? Or is it more expensive but still "easier" and they go with it? I really REALLY would like to hear everything from everyone about this, because right now I'm facing tha…

They likely get a good deal, but either way their content licensing costs are huge in comparison and make their Amazon bill a drop in the ocean.

Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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Post by probdist » Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 5:07 AM UTC

Netflix is still running its own CDNs / using CDNs outside of Amazon.

"The company, which competes with Amazon in the video-streaming business, elected to keep control of its own content delivery network."

So Netflix is still probably doing the bulk of their traffic themselves. Application servers with AWS is probably not a huge bill versus massive video traffic.

Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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Post by robbrown451 » Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 5:10 AM UTC

anotherangrydev wrote: post #10

Do you think they have a special deal w/ Amazon? Otherwise I imagine that's a really expensive bill. Do you think they're doing it because its cheaper when you account for things at a larger scale? Like, reduced liabilities, payrolls, CapEx, whatever? Or is it more expensive but still "easier" and they go with it? I really REALLY would like to hear everything from everyone about this, because right now I'm facing tha…

Assuming Amazon can do it slightly cheaper than Netflix could (i.e. Netflix doesn't have to duplicate Amazon's fixed costs, such as engineering), and that Netflix has enough bargaining power to pay Amazon very little over what it costs them to provide it....seems like an economic decision to me.

Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 5:14 AM UTC

anotherangrydev wrote: post #10

Do you think they have a special deal w/ Amazon? Otherwise I imagine that's a really expensive bill. Do you think they're doing it because its cheaper when you account for things at a larger scale? Like, reduced liabilities, payrolls, CapEx, whatever? Or is it more expensive but still "easier" and they go with it? I really REALLY would like to hear everything from everyone about this, because right now I'm facing tha…

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Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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Post by reddotX » Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 5:15 AM UTC

tedunangst wrote: post #6

orbitur wrote: post #2

This is 3rd article this week I've been blocked from reading. How are people continually reading and upvoting these links? Is everyone a subscriber? Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/FGY1lSv.png

I'm supposed to read the article before up voting?

probably bots upvoating

Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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Post by imteamcoltra » Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 5:16 AM UTC

anotherangrydev wrote: post #10

Do you think they have a special deal w/ Amazon? Otherwise I imagine that's a really expensive bill. Do you think they're doing it because its cheaper when you account for things at a larger scale? Like, reduced liabilities, payrolls, CapEx, whatever? Or is it more expensive but still "easier" and they go with it? I really REALLY would like to hear everything from everyone about this, because right now I'm facing tha…

My first thought was perhaps Amazon also got to pick up some of Netflix's employees in a deal but that seems like it would be difficult to enforce.

Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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Post by incepted » Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 5:17 AM UTC

orbitur wrote: post #2

This is 3rd article this week I've been blocked from reading. How are people continually reading and upvoting these links? Is everyone a subscriber? Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/FGY1lSv.png

I'm a bit mystified.

The link goes to an empty article but if you google the exact title, you will be taken to the full article which... has the exact same URL.

I don't know what kind of wizardry this is.

Re: Netflix to Shut Down Last Datacenter

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Post by jfoster » Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 5:18 AM UTC

tedunangst wrote: post #6

orbitur wrote: post #2

This is 3rd article this week I've been blocked from reading. How are people continually reading and upvoting these links? Is everyone a subscriber? Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/FGY1lSv.png

I'm supposed to read the article before up voting?

How would you know whether the article is worth recommending if you don't read it?