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How can you trust any cloud service then?
I don't and never have done for personal use. I literally have an IMAP box and nothing else.
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Works fine for me. Make sure your browser is functioning properly. This website works in every browser I've used, and I've never heard of any problem even remotely close to what you say you're running into.
Browser works fine, it only is an issue with his site. Firefox 40.
Do you have running app for mouse gestures? That's the only thing I can think of that makes sense in your scenario. Try holding the right click for a few seconds, see if the context menu appears.
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I don't and never have done for personal use. I literally have an IMAP box and nothing else.
I assume from your answer, that you do use it for professional purposes?
Currently digging a financial company out of a royal mess of 20 years of bad technical leadership leading to sprawling infrastructure and cloud dependencies.
Re: Even when told not to, Windows 10 doesn't stop talking to Microsoft
#214> And finally, some traffic seems quite impenetrable. We configured our test virtual machine to use an HTTP and HTTPS proxy (both as a user-level proxy and a system-wide proxy) so that we could more easily monitor its traffic, but Windows 10 seems to make requests to a content delivery network that bypass the proxy. Does this mean a Win10 machine setup to use something like Tor will leak the user's actual IP back to…
I've been on Windows 10 for a couple of days now. VPN traffic doesn't leak if the default route is the VPN interface. I tried it and my firewall went silent apart from the tunnel. I have absolutely no fucking idea what it is sending out though. It's always talking to something. I've turned everything off that is documented and use a local account and remove-appxpackage'd everything. Sorry but this release is a write…
But I can just disable networking on the host (which shouldn't be running anything anyways), or at worse, route it though a VM.
I'm more concerned about how to run it in a VM, since I need day to day Win dev tools with Internet access.
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Browser works fine, it only is an issue with his site. Firefox 40.
I saw you tried different versions on 2 different machines -- it certainly suggests something related to your setup: I can zoom, open in new tab, save as, etc on Firefox 41 on Ubuntu 14.04. Do you have running app for mouse gestures? That's the only thing I can think of that makes sense in your scenario. Try holding the right click for a few seconds, see if the context menu appears.
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You mean this will chase MS out of enterprise? Awesome! It means we don't have to support them anymore! (Supporting Windows is 10X more work than all other platforms combined due to stupid "can't reproduce here" problems on rotted and unpatched Windows machines and general Windows driver API hell. I am including Android and less-commonly-used OSS operating systems like FreeBSD and OpenBSD.)
I feel your pain. This is my life.
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Can you not block all incoming traffic from China assigned blocks?
A lot of these attempts come through proxies. Shut one down, another comes in its place.
I'm more wondering for my own selfish reasons (I'd like to stop the majority of this junk effectively if possible).
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Thank you. Javascript is required to view and upload files. No, it is definitely not.
Up1 uses client-side crypto, so in this instance it is. No real point here though, but I use ShareX with it, and it's nice to be able to deliver screenshots and stuff like this privately.
What crypto? I didn't provide any key, so both the content AND the key came from the same place. Looks like completely useless crypto.
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Every nontechnical person I told about this seemed quite shocked to learn about it and wanted to know how to avoid having their privacy invaded. I really don't think most people expect their operating system to be spying on them. It's one thing if you're on gmail.com or facebook.com and those sites collect info about you. People expect that. Most people probably don't expect Microsoft to install a keylogger on their…
Because you told them nonsense. http://www.zdnet.com/article/does-windows-10-really-include-...
Also, your link does not appear to have been updated on Jul. 29 when the author says the final release should have been available. The Ars Technica article we are discussing is from today, Aug. 13, while the ZDNet article is from almost eight months ago (Jan. 27).
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Telemetry is the quid pro quo for free upgrades for the life of the device. This is where I start to challenge what Microsoft should (as a matter of law and/or regulation) be allowed to get away with. As I've stated in other posts in this discussion, I think there is a reasonable expectation of support for a significant period for this kind of software product given that the only reason those updates are actually nec…
I don't understand your opening para. Either way, I don't think defective software has anything to do with it. Microsoft keeps writing new versions for all sorts of reasons that have nothing to do with defects. Some are to add useful functionality, or ease of use, or to keep up with a changing world. Some are essentially changes in fashion. A quick google.... Windows 10 review: Why the new Start menu, Edge browser, n…
That seems where we disagree.
With other kinds of product I buy, at least in my country, there are consumer protection laws about the being of sufficient quality and fit for their intended purpose. If a product doesn't live up to those standards, I am entitled by law to have the situation put right or compensated one way or another, for example through repair, replacement, or ultimately a refund of some or all of the money I paid to buy the product. If a product is so bad that it causes other harm as well then in some cases I would also have grounds for further compensation. (The situation is also somewhat different when selling to businesses vs. private individual in my country, so I'm oversimplifying here.)
With software, developers have historically been given a lot of slack, in part because none of us know how to write bug-free programs so expecting everyone to achieve that standard before being able to sell anything is unhelpful. However, the same basic legal principles do still apply, and they have sometimes been used in practice. Part of the reason that big software developers like Microsoft don't fall foul of those rules more often and wind up paying back a lot more in refunds and/or other compensation is that they do make reasonable efforts to fix defects in their software for a reasonable time after purchase.
My point is that providing a reasonable degree of support is not really optional for them and they are not really being generous in providing it. If they stopped doing so, and their customers then started suffering real damage because of bugs or vulnerabilities in Windows, then Microsoft would risk being sued until either they fixed the problems or their business failed.
This has absolutely nothing to do with any other kind of update. Microsoft has, to my knowledge, no obligation after a customer has already purchased their copy of Windows to provide ongoing development of new features, drivers for other vendors' hardware, or their UI. They might choose to do that, and they might choose to offer those things to customers in return for money, data, or any other agreed form of compensation.
But whether or not they do that, it doesn't change the basic obligation they do have to provide a decent product if they're charging real money for it, and to make reasonable efforts to fix defects or compensate for them if their original product is flawed. The customer is entitled to get what they paid for, not a broken version of what they paid for, and not a version where a defect was fixed but some other unwanted change was also made so it's still not what the customer was originally supposed to be buying.
A quick google....
I'm not sure how much credibility I'd give reviews from that kind of source. Of course they look favourable, because they seem to make little effort to be at all critical of anything and almost completely gloss over the widely reported problems and backward steps in favour of... ooooh, shiny!
For example, several of them highlight robustness as a big point in favour of Windows 10. Given the huge amount of negative comments from people who were in the beta/preview programme and the multiple, widespread, system-breaking forced updates that have already been pushed out within just a few days of launch, I don't see how any unbiased review could possibly conclude that stability is a strong point for Windows 10 so far, and I see no basis for the blind faith several reviewers seem to have that Microsoft will fix the fundamental risk of bad updates bricking boxes. Few of the reviews make a big deal of removed features like Media Center, or hardware incompatibilities with older devices, which are the kinds of issues that won't trouble the majority of users but will be very bad for those who are affected. I don't see much mention there of clunky search tools or the confusing division of what used to be in the control panel into multiple areas. None of the reviews that I looked at even mentioned things like privacy concerns, or spamming ads at you unless you pay subscription money to turn them off, or the WiFi Sense security concerns.
Try Googling a few other relevant terms, like say "Windows 10 laptop reboot loop" or "Windows 10 WiFi Sense security" or "Windows 10 search", and see how overwhelmingly positive the commentary looks then.