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Julian Assange 'disappointed' as sex assault case dropped

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Re: Julian Assange 'disappointed' as sex assault case dropped

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post #46

Wonderful how Assange wants everything done on his terms, if I was accused of a serious crime I'd want to be questioned from somewhere they couldn't extract me from too.

You act like that's an unreasonable demand. Questioning is not arrest, and does not need the ability to arrest.

Re: Julian Assange 'disappointed' as sex assault case dropped

#52
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or the Swedish investigators could have come to London and questioned him. It's conspicuous that they didn't.

And they did when the time bar was about to approach. At that point Ecuador conveniently starts causing problems, quite why the Swedes would lie about Ecuador's demands when they could have just waited for the time bar to expire doesn't get explained. Prior to that they were dealing with an obstructive, bail jumping individual thumbing their nose at the legal systems of two countries (the UK and Sweden). Assange appe…

Ecuadorian embassy invited Swedish prosecutors in 2012 for the first time. Yet Sweden has not replied for nearly a year - maybe Ecuador is not playing fair,but Sweden is not exactly trying.

Re: Julian Assange 'disappointed' as sex assault case dropped

#53
post #46

Wonderful how Assange wants everything done on his terms, if I was accused of a serious crime I'd want to be questioned from somewhere they couldn't extract me from too.

Sweden has questioned many people in London. For some reason, they wanted to make a special exception for Assange. Why?

Re: Julian Assange 'disappointed' as sex assault case dropped

#54
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The two women say they were not raped, and were railroaded by Swedish police. So why exactly should that have been the headline?

[citation-needed]

"On a point of law, the Swedish Supreme Court has decided Ny can continue to obstruct on the vital issue of the SMS messages. This will now go to the European Court of Human Rights. What Ny fears is that the SMS messages will destroy her case against Assange. One of the messages makes clear that one of the women did not want any charges brought against Assange, "but the police were keen on getting a hold on him". She was "shocked" when they arrested him because she only "wanted him to take [an HIV] test". She "did not want to accuse JA of anything" and "it was the police who made up the charges". (In a witness statement, she is quoted as saying that she had been "railroaded by police and others around her".)

Neither woman claimed she had been raped. Indeed, both have denied they were raped and one of them has since tweeted, "I have not been raped."

-from http://johnpilger.com/articles/assange-the-untold-story-of-a...

Re: Julian Assange 'disappointed' as sex assault case dropped

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post #9
post #2

> He still faces the more serious accusation of rape. This should have been in the headline.

The two women say they were not raped, and were railroaded by Swedish police. So why exactly should that have been the headline?

Yes, but the state can arrest you for rape in Sweden. It doesn't have to be an accusation coming from any of the victims.

Re: Julian Assange 'disappointed' as sex assault case dropped

#59
Love this in the Guardian article:

"Sweden’s justice ministry said it welcomed Ecuador’s acceptance of its offer of negotiations, but the Guardian understands the ministry rejected a proposal by Quito to meet this week because officials were on holiday"

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/aug/11/julian-assange-...

Re: Julian Assange 'disappointed' as sex assault case dropped

#60
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That Sweden recognise his asylum claim in Ecuador as valid, which the Swedish prosecutor does not have the legal authority to do. There is a good writeup from a British legal blogger at http://jackofkent.com/2015/08/assange-the-law-of-limitation-... It's worth picking out as well that Assange faces British legal issues from breaching his bail conditions. The bail set during his very lengthy legal process which valida…

The extradition hearing took three days, which is hardly a "very lengthy process". And it didn't validate the Swedish judicial process because that isn't its function. An EAW extradition hearing in the UK is merely to establish that an extraditable offence is alleged, that the party requesting the extradition has standing, and that there are no Human Rights Act issues [1]. Persons facing extradition on an EAW don't g…

Except many of the claims his supporters make, including in this thread, are that what he allegedly did aren't actually crimes. The UK court system has repeatedly held that they are analogous to UK sexual offences. Others have argued that the Swedish prosecutor can't issue a warrant, again the Supreme Court decided otherwise. Given the scope of the UK Human Rights Act, along with the argued abuse of process claims, I'm not quite sure what objections to the extraditions don't come under a heading that the court would look at.

The problem for Assange is that "but the Americans might try to extradite me, and the Swedish and British courts might suddenly become supine" isn't a valid reason to not be extradited.

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