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LA is dumping millions of plastic balls into its reservoir to tackle the drought

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Re: LA is dumping millions of plastic balls into its reservoir to tackle the drought

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What I don't understand is that they dumped black balls in the reservoir. If you want to keep the water cool to lessen evaporation wouldn't it make sense to use white or reflecting balls so the water stays slightly cooler? I would be glad to know why black balls are chosen.

Thanks for making a bit of sense of this!

Re: LA is dumping millions of plastic balls into its reservoir to tackle the drought

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post #13
post #3

They're not dumping plastic balls in order to tackle the drought, they're being dumped because the EPA mandated that all reservoirs be covered. Direct sunlight will cause bromide and chlorine in the water to mix into bromate, a known carcinogen, and the EPA wants to prevent buildup of this compound in the drinking water supply. Covering the reservoir with a tarp is too expensive (costing over $300 million) and plasti…

Was the article edited after you read it? > And the primary reason for deploying the hollow balls is more to protect the quality of the water rather than to simply stop it evaporating. In the reservoir water, the naturally occurring bromide was mixing with sunlight and chlorine (added to disinfect drinking water) to create dangerous levels of the the carcinogen bromate. Shade balls should stop that harmful chemical r…

Is there any reason why you guys don't have your reservoirs underground? It seems to me that that would solve a lot of problems.

Re: LA is dumping millions of plastic balls into its reservoir to tackle the drought

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post #18
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was the article edited after you read it? > And the primary reason for deploying the hollow balls is more to protect the quality of the water rather than to simply stop it evaporating. In the reservoir water, the naturally occurring bromide was mixing with sunlight and chlorine (added to disinfect drinking water) to create dangerous levels of the the carcinogen bromate. Shade balls should stop that harmful chemical r…

Wouldn't it make more sense to add the chlorine after the water is drawn from the reservoir? Doesn't that fix the bromate problem at the root?

I would guess that having loads of dead algae in your drinking water is not much better than live algae. You want to keep assorted gunk from having a chance to grow in the first place.

Re: LA is dumping millions of plastic balls into its reservoir to tackle the drought

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post #3

They're not dumping plastic balls in order to tackle the drought, they're being dumped because the EPA mandated that all reservoirs be covered. Direct sunlight will cause bromide and chlorine in the water to mix into bromate, a known carcinogen, and the EPA wants to prevent buildup of this compound in the drinking water supply. Covering the reservoir with a tarp is too expensive (costing over $300 million) and plasti…

> Covering the reservoir with a tarp is too expensive (costing over $300 million) and plastic balls are a much cheaper option.

This is what I don't get in this story. How on Earth are plastic balls cheaper than just covering the thing? One would think that a tarp would use less material and be easier to manufacture than the equivalent number of plastic balls.

EDIT: Thanks for all your answers. I guess the heatwaves we have right now in Poland are negatively affecting my imagination :(.

Re: LA is dumping millions of plastic balls into its reservoir to tackle the drought

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post #9
post #3

They're not dumping plastic balls in order to tackle the drought, they're being dumped because the EPA mandated that all reservoirs be covered. Direct sunlight will cause bromide and chlorine in the water to mix into bromate, a known carcinogen, and the EPA wants to prevent buildup of this compound in the drinking water supply. Covering the reservoir with a tarp is too expensive (costing over $300 million) and plasti…

doesn't the plastic + sunlight + heat combination release dangerous chemicals in the water? also, why are they black, doesn't that attract more heat?

That's what I thought, too. Shiny silver balls would reflect even more light, and look super-cool!

Re: LA is dumping millions of plastic balls into its reservoir to tackle the drought

#27
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"in which a total of 96 million balls have been poured" "they're cheap (costing just 36 cents per unit)" Is that really cheap, or is it just because it's in LA?

Since it's LA, they could have recycled millions of silicon breast implants instead of using plastic balls. ;)

Re: LA is dumping millions of plastic balls into its reservoir to tackle the drought

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post #3

They're not dumping plastic balls in order to tackle the drought, they're being dumped because the EPA mandated that all reservoirs be covered. Direct sunlight will cause bromide and chlorine in the water to mix into bromate, a known carcinogen, and the EPA wants to prevent buildup of this compound in the drinking water supply. Covering the reservoir with a tarp is too expensive (costing over $300 million) and plasti…

> Covering the reservoir with a tarp is too expensive (costing over $300 million) and plastic balls are a much cheaper option. This is what I don't get in this story. How on Earth are plastic balls cheaper than just covering the thing? One would think that a tarp would use less material and be easier to manufacture than the equivalent number of plastic balls. EDIT: Thanks for all your answers. I guess the heatwaves w…

I'm guessing the problem is managing a tarp that big.

Re: LA is dumping millions of plastic balls into its reservoir to tackle the drought

#29
post #3

They're not dumping plastic balls in order to tackle the drought, they're being dumped because the EPA mandated that all reservoirs be covered. Direct sunlight will cause bromide and chlorine in the water to mix into bromate, a known carcinogen, and the EPA wants to prevent buildup of this compound in the drinking water supply. Covering the reservoir with a tarp is too expensive (costing over $300 million) and plasti…

> Covering the reservoir with a tarp is too expensive (costing over $300 million) and plastic balls are a much cheaper option. This is what I don't get in this story. How on Earth are plastic balls cheaper than just covering the thing? One would think that a tarp would use less material and be easier to manufacture than the equivalent number of plastic balls. EDIT: Thanks for all your answers. I guess the heatwaves w…

> One would think that a tarp would use less material and be easier to manufacture than the equivalent number of plastic balls.

How do you suspend the tarp? What about when it rains on the tarp, increasing its weight substantially? Repair the tarp when sections get damaged? UV resistance over its lifetime?

Using barges/boats and dragging it from shore-to-shore is very slow going, and any suitably durable tarp (i.e. waxed canvas or some plastic) is going to be HEAVY.

Re: LA is dumping millions of plastic balls into its reservoir to tackle the drought

#30
post #3

They're not dumping plastic balls in order to tackle the drought, they're being dumped because the EPA mandated that all reservoirs be covered. Direct sunlight will cause bromide and chlorine in the water to mix into bromate, a known carcinogen, and the EPA wants to prevent buildup of this compound in the drinking water supply. Covering the reservoir with a tarp is too expensive (costing over $300 million) and plasti…

> Covering the reservoir with a tarp is too expensive (costing over $300 million) and plastic balls are a much cheaper option. This is what I don't get in this story. How on Earth are plastic balls cheaper than just covering the thing? One would think that a tarp would use less material and be easier to manufacture than the equivalent number of plastic balls. EDIT: Thanks for all your answers. I guess the heatwaves w…

How would you make a lake-sized tarp? How would you deploy it, repair tears, etc. You can just make balls with a press and dump some more if they get damaged.
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