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Relaunched TrueCrypt site with original content and documentation

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Re: Relaunched TrueCrypt site with original content and documentation

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Post by ionised »

nickysielicki wrote: post #38
jaawn wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a more likely scenario might be that control of the project was seized, and the final release and statements were not from the developers, or they were issued by the developers under duress. It seems more like an agency wanted to shut it down because it worked too well.

I refuse to believe we live in that unfree of a society. I know that we have FISA courts and so forth, but that's still a tier below preventing someone from continuing to publish their computer code. All the 90's cases surrounding cryptography as armaments cemented the notion that it's protected under the first amendment.

> I refuse to believe we live in that unfree of a society.

I could never believe otherwise. Not after everything I've learned in my time on this rock.

Re: Relaunched TrueCrypt site with original content and documentation

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Post by jaawn »

nickysielicki wrote: post #38
jaawn wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a more likely scenario might be that control of the project was seized, and the final release and statements were not from the developers, or they were issued by the developers under duress. It seems more like an agency wanted to shut it down because it worked too well.

I refuse to believe we live in that unfree of a society. I know that we have FISA courts and so forth, but that's still a tier below preventing someone from continuing to publish their computer code. All the 90's cases surrounding cryptography as armaments cemented the notion that it's protected under the first amendment.

I think our society is not this unfree provided you are willing to fight. Several government agencies have the power through fear to do something like this when they deem it necessary, and a very small dev team with no resources or company lawyers to back them up would be an easy target. Sure, fighting such a seizure might yield success, but it is a lot of time and energy and money to devote to a cause. This is the same reason why many people settle lawsuits out of court instead of seeing them through.

Re: Relaunched TrueCrypt site with original content and documentation

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Post by luck87 »

piq wrote: post #29

Who are we? Why do you need cookies to deliver your service? I rather trust steve gibsons website https://www.grc.com/misc/truecrypt/truecrypt.htm

Yes, I agree that this is the truth. This sort of mystery about the end of truecrypt was unfounded.

Re: Relaunched TrueCrypt site with original content and documentation

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Post by bitL »

fluidcruft wrote: post #36
bitL wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plausible deniability? With LUKS everyone can see your volume is encrypted; to avoid that you'd have to use plain dm-crypt/cryptsetup, randomize your drives (time consuming) and manage keys yourself (too much work).

Anyone can be pretty sure that your drive is encrypted rather than full of entropy, anyway.

Imagine somebody decided to use $5 wrench method on you right after you randomized your RAID ;-)

Re: Relaunched TrueCrypt site with original content and documentation

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Post by hsod »

ionised wrote: post #35
jaawn wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they discovered an issue in Windows, and it led to gag orders, why would they tell people to move to BitLocker (a Microsoft product)?

I suspect that by recommending encryption software that is highly unreliable like Bitlocker (by virtue of being closed source and developed by Microsoft who we know cannot be trusted) they sent up a huge red flag to their user base. Nobody would expect the TrueCrypt devs to recommend something like this, so it is immediately suspect and all anyone really needs to asusme something isn't right (like a gag order).

Occam's Razor tells us that the TrueCrypt devs were done with the project and don't share your opinions of Bitlocker and Microsoft.

Re: Relaunched TrueCrypt site with original content and documentation

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Post by ryanlol »

nickysielicki wrote: post #24

If I was concerned about my data, I wouldn't touch TrueCrypt with a 10 foot pole. More specifically I wouldn't touch Windows. Developers don't abruptly shut down projects. If there are problems with the code, they release statements and patches. If they lose interest in the project, they call it orphaned and ask for maintainers. If it's a mix of the two, they at least say so. But what happened with TrueCrypt was trul…

No warning? No phase-out? Are you kidding me. TrueCrypt was completely dead by the time they shut down the project.

Re: Relaunched TrueCrypt site with original content and documentation

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Post by ryanlol »

ionised wrote: post #35
jaawn wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they discovered an issue in Windows, and it led to gag orders, why would they tell people to move to BitLocker (a Microsoft product)?

I suspect that by recommending encryption software that is highly unreliable like Bitlocker (by virtue of being closed source and developed by Microsoft who we know cannot be trusted) they sent up a huge red flag to their user base. Nobody would expect the TrueCrypt devs to recommend something like this, so it is immediately suspect and all anyone really needs to asusme something isn't right (like a gag order).

Bitlocker is by far the most audited encryption solution available...

Re: Relaunched TrueCrypt site with original content and documentation

#48

Post by ionised »

ryanlol wrote: post #47
ionised wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect that by recommending encryption software that is highly unreliable like Bitlocker (by virtue of being closed source and developed by Microsoft who we know cannot be trusted) they sent up a huge red flag to their user base. Nobody would expect the TrueCrypt devs to recommend something like this, so it is immediately suspect and all anyone really needs to asusme something isn't right (like a gag order).

Bitlocker is by far the most audited encryption solution available...

Audited by who?

Re: Relaunched TrueCrypt site with original content and documentation

#49

Post by ionised »

hsod wrote: post #45
ionised wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect that by recommending encryption software that is highly unreliable like Bitlocker (by virtue of being closed source and developed by Microsoft who we know cannot be trusted) they sent up a huge red flag to their user base. Nobody would expect the TrueCrypt devs to recommend something like this, so it is immediately suspect and all anyone really needs to asusme something isn't right (like a gag order).

Occam's Razor tells us that the TrueCrypt devs were done with the project and don't share your opinions of Bitlocker and Microsoft.

Except they do share those opinions and very suspiciously changed them in their final message. So what you believe is the simplest explanation doesn't work here.

Re: Relaunched TrueCrypt site with original content and documentation

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Post by ryanlol »

ionised wrote: post #49
hsod wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Occam's Razor tells us that the TrueCrypt devs were done with the project and don't share your opinions of Bitlocker and Microsoft.

Except they do share those opinions and very suspiciously changed them in their final message. So what you believe is the simplest explanation doesn't work here.

Who are you to say what opinions they share? Especially considering davts emails...
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