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Ohm (YC S15) is a smarter, lighter car battery that works with your existing car

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Re: Ohm (YC S15) is a smarter, lighter car battery that works with your existing car

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Hey everyone! I'm Hunter, one of the cofounders of Ohm. Let me know if I can answer any questions.

I don't know how much you can talk about the tech, but I'm interested in how it fits with existing batteries & applications. Is it possibly an add-on to lead acid? A better jump starter? What about industrial like large motor plants where you need a jolt to get a lot of weight moving?

Re: Ohm (YC S15) is a smarter, lighter car battery that works with your existing car

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Lead acid is traditionally very forgiving with regards to temperature. How does the electrical performance of your battery vary with temperature, especially at extremely cold (-40C) and extremely hot (80C) conditions?

Exactly what I was thinking...

...and more on that point, I drive an RX-7 and my engine puts out _extreme_ amounts of heat under the hood. a 50C top-end probably isn't enough for driving on hot days.

I would go for one of these without a second thought because a) though my car is light, reducing more weight helps out loads with performance and b) these things are known to kill alternators and I'd love advance warning of when I might end up stranded without having to test the battery's volts every day.

I'd love to demo one of these.

Re: Ohm (YC S15) is a smarter, lighter car battery that works with your existing car

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post #5

So yesterday Audi/Porsche/VW announced a new v6 engine that will be used in variations across all their vehicles. Further down the line, they said that engine would include an electric drive component as well, incorporating a battery, effectively making all their cars "hybrids". This seems to be the trend, see racing tech (Formula 1, WEC, etc.). We will probably see this in all new consumer cars sometime soon. Once e…

> Once every car has a battery, wouldn't the standard car battery that's most common today be obsolete?

That day is still a long way away, and once it arrives, there will still be large numbers of classic and modern hot rods on the road. That's not a small market.

> At your price point, performance/luxury cars seem to be your only market

The US automotive aftermarket was around $300 billion in 2013.

> ...already limited to 5 years at the most.

I seriously doubt that even the majority of vehicles on the road will be EVs within 5 years. And 5 years is plenty of time to develop other innovative automotive products.

Re: Ohm (YC S15) is a smarter, lighter car battery that works with your existing car

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So yesterday Audi/Porsche/VW announced a new v6 engine that will be used in variations across all their vehicles. Further down the line, they said that engine would include an electric drive component as well, incorporating a battery, effectively making all their cars "hybrids". This seems to be the trend, see racing tech (Formula 1, WEC, etc.). We will probably see this in all new consumer cars sometime soon. Once e…

>At your price point, performance/luxury cars seem to be your only market

Is this really true? It sounded from the article like they're only about $50 more than a typical battery, unless I missed something. I could see some people with normal cars shelling out $50 for the longer life and features to avoid a dead battery, even if the reduced weight doesn't matter much to them.

Re: Ohm (YC S15) is a smarter, lighter car battery that works with your existing car

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Hey everyone! I'm Hunter, one of the cofounders of Ohm. Let me know if I can answer any questions.

Hi Hunter. Do you all plan to offer the battery in a minimal form factor (without the group 35 adapter)? I currently am running one of the Shorai LiFePo4 batteries in my track car. I really love the small size and weight, and would be willing to work around the smaller form factor.

Re: Ohm (YC S15) is a smarter, lighter car battery that works with your existing car

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How does it handle a car that's iffy on starting? It's probably not hard to get something that'll crank a starter for a few seconds. But what happens if it needs to crank for 60 seconds over a 90 second window?

I've got a 2006 Forester with a manual. I'll occasionally stall it backing out of a parking spot, so I'll have to start it again. For some reason it's much more difficult to start in between cold and warmed up, so it'll take several seconds of cranking to fire back up. If I were to stall it again trying to get going, would I then be in trouble?

It doesn't happen often, perhaps only once a month. But if I'm stuck there for 30 seconds while the LiFe batteries recharge the supercap I'm not going to be happy.

Re: Ohm (YC S15) is a smarter, lighter car battery that works with your existing car

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Hey everyone! I'm Hunter, one of the cofounders of Ohm. Let me know if I can answer any questions.

> if it’s ever about to reach the point that it’ll no longer be able to start your car, it’ll just turn itself off. Your lights will fade out and the radio will go quiet — but once you turn the key, everything will spring right back to life, no jump start required.

How does that work? If the battery stops providing current to prevent itself from being fully drained, you're not going to have power to the car's computers to actually start anything.

Re: Ohm (YC S15) is a smarter, lighter car battery that works with your existing car

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So yesterday Audi/Porsche/VW announced a new v6 engine that will be used in variations across all their vehicles. Further down the line, they said that engine would include an electric drive component as well, incorporating a battery, effectively making all their cars "hybrids". This seems to be the trend, see racing tech (Formula 1, WEC, etc.). We will probably see this in all new consumer cars sometime soon. Once e…

A lot of hybrids, like the Prius [1] have a second battery designed for turning over the engine that are designed for different usage cases than the drivetrain batteries; it's also why this battery has a supercapacitor for starting, and lithium polymers for the rest of the time. Additionally, there are a lot of people who like older cars, think hotrodders, etc, where a battery like this would also be useful. It's definitely more of a niche product, but I do see a market for more than five years.

[1] http://www.amazon.com/Optima-Batteries-8171-767-DS46B24R-Yel...

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