Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2 • Hacker News Board

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

#31

Post by joeyspn » Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 4:44 PM UTC

Sincerely I prefer to run ubuntu. Last week I installed Ubuntu Server 14.04 in my Pi 2 and it works like a charm. Totally recommended...

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi

Ubuntu Snappy Core (also marketed for IoT)... mmm not so much great. IMO still few community and howtos for building your snappy apps (even Raspbian is better)

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

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Post by s73v3r » Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 4:45 PM UTC

tigeba wrote: post #3

When they released this a couple of months ago I was pretty excited to try it out. I think the barrier to installation is a bit high. First install Windows 10, then custom install of VS, install IoT Templates, then about 30 more steps before you get the image to flash on your SD. How about a link to the image I can blast on the SD and kick the tires without a couple hours of downloading and installing prerequisites?

Agreed. There is absolutely no excuse for having all that crap to go through.

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

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Post by MrZongle2 » Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 4:45 PM UTC

I'd love to try this out.

But I have zero interest in migrating any of my perfectly fine Windows 7 systems to Windows 10. Other than a shiny "FREE!" sticker, I have yet to see a compelling case for me to upgrade.

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

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Post by ultramancool » Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 4:45 PM UTC

intrasight wrote: post #19

I just don't get why they would put up a barrier to entry by requiring Windows 10 - at least I can't think of any technical rationale.

Well, you can always patch the check out and find out what happens.

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

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Post by s73v3r » Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 4:46 PM UTC

ghurlman wrote: post #11

tigeba wrote: post #3

When they released this a couple of months ago I was pretty excited to try it out. I think the barrier to installation is a bit high. First install Windows 10, then custom install of VS, install IoT Templates, then about 30 more steps before you get the image to flash on your SD. How about a link to the image I can blast on the SD and kick the tires without a couple hours of downloading and installing prerequisites?

While the tool to flash the SD that Microsoft built requires Windows 10, it doesn't require anything else besides a Pi: http://ms-iot.github.io/content/en-US/win10/SetupRPI.htm Granted, if you go through the developer site, it points you towards installing what you need to develop software for it. shrug

There are dozens of other tools available to do the same thing, and yet they had to go build their own?

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

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Post by ultramancool » Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 4:49 PM UTC

thenewwazoo wrote: post #21

doomspork wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell if you're making a joke or not.

Not. MS makes really, really killer tools.

Not really, they make okay tools that are extensible enough. Visual Studio is a great example of this. You basically need ReSharper and a hundred other addons to get anything serious done.

Just try using VS for C++ development, even the primitive Qt Creator tops it.

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

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Post by pen2l » Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 4:53 PM UTC

Sorry, silly question: can one use this Win10 R-pi as a "real computer"? (more to the point: I want to run labview programs on this r-pi, because of its small size/cost -- give/receive triggers various home automation equipment etc., I'm wondering if that'll be possible with this)

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

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Post by edgyswingset » Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 4:53 PM UTC

tacos wrote: post #22

doomspork wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell if you're making a joke or not.

I really wish I could show about 70% of the Windows knuckleheads a few Linux tools. And I really wish about half of Hacker News would spend twenty minutes with Visual Studio and Azure. Both sides have no idea what is possible. And, no. No joke.

I see it as a problem with people not being open to a shift in how to get things done. You even see it within Windows development, like the crowd who argue you can't get anything done without ReSharper. People get used to doing something one way, and any other way is seen as inferior.

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

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Post by Jedd » Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 4:53 PM UTC

joshuapants wrote: post #29

mtgx wrote: post #25

Supporting a proprietary platform on Raspberry Pi kind of defeats the point of the openness on which Raspberry Pi was built, no?

The Raspberry Pi may be openwashed, but it's not really that open. edit: oh no, I've run afoul of the Broadcom shills. Oh well.

True assessment or not, it's not a compelling reason in itself to encourage less free use(r)s of it.

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

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Post by miguelrochefort » Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 4:54 PM UTC

tacos wrote: post #22

doomspork wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell if you're making a joke or not.

I really wish I could show about 70% of the Windows knuckleheads a few Linux tools. And I really wish about half of Hacker News would spend twenty minutes with Visual Studio and Azure. Both sides have no idea what is possible. And, no. No joke.

Show me the Linux tools.