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Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled

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Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled

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Post by ZenoArrow »

jmnicolas wrote: post #181
fencepost wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More and more I think I'm going to hold off on updating from Windows 7 - possibly except for one system, since I may fiddle with some Windows Phone development and I'm pretty sure I'll need 8+ for that. Though I may still jump through the hoops to do upgrades on a couple more laptops just to get Windows 10 Pro licenses activated on them - fortunately one of them needs a wipe and reinstall anyway since it was factory…

AFAIK you just need a recent Visual Studio version for Windows Phone dev. VS 2015 works perfectly fine on Windows 7.

I may have done something wrong but I wasn't able to install the Windows Phone 8 development tools a couple of weeks ago (Win 7 x64, VS Ultimate 2013).

Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled

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Post by morganvachon »

a3n wrote: post #225
morganvachon wrote: post #212

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You're probably right, I was thinking back to my first real Linux learning curve with Slackware around 2000-2001. I dived in head-first and I'm glad I did, what I learned doing that built a foundation that has served me well.

Yeah, and you did that because you had to back then. :) Thinking more about my post, I left out the option of just staying with Linux Mint after a noob gains experience. Not that I'm anything like a role model, but it's my default personal distro, because it doesn't try to be the main focus of my computer experience, it just gets out of the way lets me focus on the work.

Mint is a great OS, I used it off and on for several years. I enjoy getting my hands dirty and I like fine-grained control over my OS though, so I've always gravitated back to Slackware long-term. Not to drag out the dreaded car-computer analogy, but it's why I keep my old 1982 farm truck instead of buying a more modern work truck; it's simple, I know it inside and out, and it runs just the way I want it to.

But you can't go wrong with Mint as a "get out of my way" OS, as you said.

Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled

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Post by romaniv »

userbinator wrote: post #214
chatmasta wrote: post #34

This also happens on iOS with spotlight. As far as I can tell there's no way to turn it off. Source: MITM your iOS traffic. Sidenote -- a possibly unforeseen side effect of end to end encryption everywhere is that it makes it far more difficult to man in the middle your traffic and hold companies accountable for their privacy policies.

a possibly unforeseen side effect of end to end encryption everywhere is that it makes it far more difficult to man in the middle your traffic and hold companies accountable for their privacy policies I don't think it's an unforseen effect, but one that is highly downplayed by advocates pushing the security angle. When it was revealed that smart TVs phoned home with detailed viewing information, including filenames,…

One solution could be to move encryption to OS-level libraries in such a way that you could tap into traffic before it's encrypted for debugging.

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Post by blackbeard »

ZenoArrow wrote: post #241
jmnicolas wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK you just need a recent Visual Studio version for Windows Phone dev. VS 2015 works perfectly fine on Windows 7.

I may have done something wrong but I wasn't able to install the Windows Phone 8 development tools a couple of weeks ago (Win 7 x64, VS Ultimate 2013).

You need Windows 8.1 for it due to the Hyper-V and WDDM dependencies.

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Post by Karunamon »

mikegioia wrote: post #94
justThis1Post wrote: post #36

As time goes by, computer software begins to feel more and more hostile to the user. When I installed Windows 10, all the privacy settings made me feel like I was wrangling a beast rather than setting up something that would help me. I don't know if there's any solution or if privacy is just a remnant of the past. Is Linux any better? And is there any way to own a smartphone which is built not to leak my information,…

I don't know if there's any solution or if privacy is just a remnant of the past. This always irritates me when I see it (not specific to you). It's not a remnant of the past and there is of course a solution! The solution is trading some of the conveniences you think you need. The solution is for once trying something other than what you're used to. The reason why you (and everyone else who thinks this way) feel the…

They're non-starters because the alternatives do not fit the users needs - it's pretty simple actually.

It's not as simple as just throwing out Windows and Office and switching to Mint and Libreoffice.

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Post by freehunter »

Paul_S wrote: post #8

Reminds me of when canononical did something similar with ubuntu and extended searching your applications to searching merchandise on amazon and other stores. It's really funny when you open the start menu equivalent at work to launch the terminal* and as you type "t" you get to see items you can buy - one of them being "The Simpsons". Genius. * before you complain I use the start menu to launch the terminal: I never…

Ubuntu shortcuts are the worst. Why are they not consistent with other Linux distros, I'll never understand.

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Post by sandworm101 »

tychuz wrote: post #234
sandworm101 wrote: post #139

Another bad day for Microsoft. Another good day for linux.

You mean Apple, we're talking about desktop OS here - new Windows Server is not released yet.

Nope. I mean desktop linux. Every time MS, or Apple, launch a new OS with silly fine print and non-removable malware I get people asking about linux.

Actually, silly ToS language and spyware don't really matter. The entire update/versioning process with MS is so painful that distros like ubuntu start to seem the easier option.

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Post by overgryphon »

jakub_g wrote: post #172

It seems there would be a big market for an app with a nice GUI making it possible to change all the privacy settings of Windows 10 (as we go and discover stuff like this) in one single screen.

The in-box Settings app already has a privacy section that is easy to find, has a nice GUI, and breaks down privacy options into reasonable categories (location, contacts, calendar, feedback, devices, ect). Microsoft may need to add a few more options, but overall it's a huge improvement over the privacy controls of Windows 8.1.

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Post by couchand »

z3t4 wrote: post #180
couchand wrote: post #161

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Shout out for the N900. I've said for years I'd pay handily for an updated model. Your comment reminded me to check back on the Neo900 project, and it's still chugging along. Looks like they've started accepting pre-orders on the site.

Too bad Microsoft bought it, and shut it down though :/

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