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Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled

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Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled

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Oh man, I am racking my brain trying to think of the tool I used to have installed on my PC at my last job. It was built by somebody who posted on HN, lightsomething or something? It would warn you about new programs connecting to the network and do other neat stuff. Not quite the same as little snitch, but similar and very pleasant to use. I'll update if I think of it (or maybe somebody else can name it.) [edit] Gla…

Is there an open source alternative/equivalent, preferably runs on Linux?

Pretty much every distro on earth comes with a firewall package which you can install and configure.

Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled

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While I agree with you that people are overreacting, I think overreaction is to be expected given that MS chose pretty much the most intrusive defaults possible. People have to opt-out of this stuff rather than opt-in which causes people to lose confidence in MS.

The problem is how do you know that you succeeded at this whack a mole game of switching off all these features? And given this new cavalier approach, what confidence do you have that another of these call home things will not be quietly introduced through these new non optional automatic updates? I personally choose to pay a premium for my mobile by using an iphone rather an android precisely because I am put off by…

There's an alternative appstore, Fdroid https://f-droid.org/, which has 1800 diverse apps at the moment. You can use and choose your own geolocation provider like opencellid,mozilla, apple, openstreetmap. This alternative is also part of "The google approach"

Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled

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Reminds me of when canononical did something similar with ubuntu and extended searching your applications to searching merchandise on amazon and other stores. It's really funny when you open the start menu equivalent at work to launch the terminal* and as you type "t" you get to see items you can buy - one of them being "The Simpsons". Genius. * before you complain I use the start menu to launch the terminal: I never…

"I wanted to update/install my nvidia drivers, so I opened the dash and typed "drivers". IT DISPLAYED GOLF CLUBS on sale at Amazon!"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/bikeshed/vtXkVdALoJ8/N...

Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled

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It's the new norm apparently - everyone is doing this. Apple gives OS X away but nobody has yet got the memo that you are becoming the product. (Yosemite does exactly that by default - you can disable it though.)

I am curious how you think Spotlight web suggestions would work without sending data to Apple.

Do you expect your laptop to be crawling the internet ?

Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled

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post #165

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Nobody cares about perfect privacy, but people do care about Total Information Awareness. This is going in TIA direction, in fact it's already there. It's sickening. So I am happy to be a Linux user, and it's the right time to switch. Say goodbye to your corporate overlords and come on down here. The privacy is fine.

The parent comment was in the context of smartphones though. Do you have a smartphone & how happy are you with the privacy it gives you?

There is Jolla's Sailfish OS that has been built on Redhat Linux. However, the phone isn't exactly great hardware-wise. A better phone with the same OS is about to be released later this year by an Indian company (Intex) but I don't know whether it will be available globally.

Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled

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Thanks! Typing > New-NetFirewallRule -DisplayName "Search" -Direction Outbound -Action Block -Profile "Domain, Private, Public" -Program "C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Cortana_cw5n1h2txyewy\SearchUI.exe" in elevated Powershell should work.

Please note that the manifest id above (cw5n1h2txyewy) may change if they update the app rendering the rule invalid.

That looks to be a publisher id in use since Windows 8.

Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled

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This is a big problem for us in the finance sector. We're SOL when it comes to Windows 10. It's a complete dead end if we can't lock stuff down with GPO. There are meetings taking place to work out what to do about this in various companies and the general answer so far is jump the sinking platform ship and "thank fuck we wrote everything in Java". Some of the big guys are already rolling out RHEL desktops.

I wonder if it is even legal to use Windows 10 if you have to comply with HIPAA regulated. I suggest using this incompatibility as leverage against this kind of data exfiltration. The only way a big company will change is when it hurts their pocket book. They might notice if enough businesses such as yours decline to use Windows 10 while complaining about this. Of course, Linux is always a good choice, regardless of…

The problem is that we deliver everything via the web so people will barely notice if we move our stuff over to an alternative platform from Windows.

Microsoft knows it has lock in from a lot of people and it will abuse this. I think their aggressive cloud move with Office 365 and Azure's PaaS stuff is an example of how they are moving this forward further yet retaining a subscription. NOTHING is portable away from them without significant cost.

Edit: just the effort I started two weeks ago to move all my data to platform neutral formats and shift to Linux is less than 50% of the way through and that's just one person with 20 years of data.

Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled

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If you opt into the Windows ecosystem, there's no point in complaining about leaking private info. If you care about this, you should choose to run an OS that you control.

Not all of us are all-in on the ecosystem. Personally, I just want to play some games and occasionally do some reverse engineering. Just for that, which was perfectly possible in the past, I should be forced to give up private info?

I'm not saying that building software which does not respect privacy is good. I'm saying that if you choose to use software that is designed by companies that are clearly motivated to monetize your personal info, then that is a trade-off which you accept. Render unto Caesar.

Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled

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post #199

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Any company that installs adware on an operating system you paid for [1], and even forcibly reinstalls it after you remove it and block it, clearly doesn't give a shit about user experience or your privacy. Some Linux distros will also remind you to update, but they aren't paid updates and anyway you can turn those updates off if you like, and they won't come back. [1] https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3035583

Unless I'm missing something, this isn't a paid update either. And you can turn it off in a few fairly trivial ways[1] (though I'll admit this might be past some users, anyone who has even heard the word 'distro' probably shouldn't have an issue with it) [1] http://superuser.com/questions/922068/how-to-disable-the-get...

Uninstalling and hiding that update only works until MS releases a new version of it, at which point Windows will unhide it and reinstall. It's not a solution.

Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled

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Oh man, I am racking my brain trying to think of the tool I used to have installed on my PC at my last job. It was built by somebody who posted on HN, lightsomething or something? It would warn you about new programs connecting to the network and do other neat stuff. Not quite the same as little snitch, but similar and very pleasant to use. I'll update if I think of it (or maybe somebody else can name it.) [edit] Gla…

Is there an open source alternative/equivalent, preferably runs on Linux?

Just iptables.
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