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When One App Rules Them All: The Case of WeChat and Mobile in China

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Re: When One App Rules Them All: The Case of WeChat and Mobile in China

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At least Wechat had pushed two things powerfully, one is QR Code, the other one is HTML5.

Who in their right mind uses QR codes!?! As a human you have no idea where that thing is pointing, so why on earth would you trust it? At least with a URL I have half a chance of knowing if I'm about to be hit by a phishing attack.

Re: When One App Rules Them All: The Case of WeChat and Mobile in China

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I am in China right this instant and (like everyone) I have wechat on my phone. Perhaps the services mentioned don't have much use/appeal to expats, but I have never heard of any of the stuff mentioned in this article. Wechat to me is just a texting app because data is cheaper than texts (thanks China Mobile). At first I couldn't even find any of the features mentioned. some of the stuff (taxi's, planes) are hidden i…

If you read further, adding these "sub apps" is like adding another account. Have you added something like a blogger before on Wechat? I think it works like that. You get the ID and you added like a friend. Then the "chat menu" is just a little different with other features inside. If you find a way I'd really appreciate a little update from you. I'm currently not in China, was also totally unaware of these capabilities, but I think they might be a major thing once uncovered, that Chinese people basically don't tell you about because they think it's common knowledge.

Re: When One App Rules Them All: The Case of WeChat and Mobile in China

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post #17

At least Wechat had pushed two things powerfully, one is QR Code, the other one is HTML5.

Who in their right mind uses QR codes!?! As a human you have no idea where that thing is pointing, so why on earth would you trust it? At least with a URL I have half a chance of knowing if I'm about to be hit by a phishing attack.

A) Trust is not an issue in these regards in China. B) when your chat app generates a QR code that the chat app of the friend or the payment tool from a shop uses it's quite clear what the QR code means. It's not that there are random QR Codes everywhere on the street and you have to trust them. If you want to add me, I don't tell you my nick name but just show you my QR code on my phone and you add through your app, not the web browser.

Re: When One App Rules Them All: The Case of WeChat and Mobile in China

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post #3

I am in China right this instant and (like everyone) I have wechat on my phone. Perhaps the services mentioned don't have much use/appeal to expats, but I have never heard of any of the stuff mentioned in this article. Wechat to me is just a texting app because data is cheaper than texts (thanks China Mobile). At first I couldn't even find any of the features mentioned. some of the stuff (taxi's, planes) are hidden i…

> Wechat to me is just a texting app because data is cheaper than texts (thanks China Mobile).

Well, I used China Unicom, but I noticed something similar. I got a SIM card about two years ago with "no internet plan". It turned out to have data connectivity anyway, so I just used it for that. Every month I'd get messages stating "you have used X amount of data, of which X is in excess of your monthly limit". And yet... I was spending much less money on phone service than even the cheapest official data plan, so I left it that way. Any idea how this sort of situation came about?

Re: When One App Rules Them All: The Case of WeChat and Mobile in China

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post #16

I live in China, and resisted using wechat for a year or so, until it became clear that I was essentially removing myself from the majority of China's online world. I'm still highly annoyed when I get seven minutes' worth of 30-second voice clips from someone, or when people insist on using it as a replacement for email (essentially, using it as a replacement for all internet-based communication, period), but it's im…

Chinese don't even really know what Email is. For most of them email is "that second chat function in QQ which for some reason is more complicated. no idea why anybody uses it".

Also as you pointed out in the end, it's not just that you remove yourself from the Chinese internet world. You don't have access to China in general without it. It's so integrated in people's daily life that it's nearly impossible to separate online and offline any more.

Re: When One App Rules Them All: The Case of WeChat and Mobile in China

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The beauty of WeChat is not it has tons of features, it's the tons of features are well hidden. As another user said, it's very natural to have used WeChat for quite some time and doesn't know all these existed. People always say it's not just a chat app, but if you use it just for chat then it's a pretty good one with good voice and video chat quality, supports group chat well and has a clean UI. All the other features are opt-in, hidden in several level of menus. There are no flashy confusing buttons, no daily reminder asking you to try some new feature, no distraction. For me and my friends who has long abandoned the bloated and flashy QQ for simple gtalk (before google got banned), WeChat is a breath of fresh air.

Re: When One App Rules Them All: The Case of WeChat and Mobile in China

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or the mobile messaging ecosystem in US will look a lot more like wechat in 3-5 years. China can be ahead in some areas.

If china is ahead in this, then humanity might as well pack it in. China's sandbox model works well when you've got a few hundred million uneducated peasants, but an educated populous (Which china is having more success stopping than I care to admit) wants diversity; It wants options, differing opinions, choices that cater to them, not to what people want to offer them.

China has an educated urban population about equivalent in size to the entire population of the US, and they're all using WeChat. My wife is a Nurse, has a 2:1 degree and although born in China has lived and worked in the UK since 2000 and she uses WeChat all the time, as do our kids. Educated non-techies don't want diversity, they want functionality and community.

Re: When One App Rules Them All: The Case of WeChat and Mobile in China

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who in their right mind uses QR codes!?! As a human you have no idea where that thing is pointing, so why on earth would you trust it? At least with a URL I have half a chance of knowing if I'm about to be hit by a phishing attack.

A) Trust is not an issue in these regards in China. B) when your chat app generates a QR code that the chat app of the friend or the payment tool from a shop uses it's quite clear what the QR code means. It's not that there are random QR Codes everywhere on the street and you have to trust them. If you want to add me, I don't tell you my nick name but just show you my QR code on my phone and you add through your app,…

Oh no. Here's how an attack might go. I'm a shop assistant and show you a QR code to scan to make a purchase. Unknown to you, I'm not actually showing you the real app, but a fake app with fake QR code that will redirect you to a malicious website, which in it's turn will load the proper URL after having executed an unpatched zero-day on your device. You are sad because your device has just been pwned.

You are at the mercy of the source of the QR code, with no real way of being able to validate it before scanning.

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