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Re: G is for Google

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Post by wutbrodo » Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 9:31 PM UTC

hartator wrote: post #100

nicolethenerd wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hooli XYZ is a reference to the HBO show Silicon Valley. It has no relation to Google (other than that Hooli is basically a fictional parody of Google). Looks like some developer added that to this press release as an easter egg.

I feel Google shouldn't stop trying to pretend they are still cool hype startup, that just come up as fake. I also feel from a PR perspective it might in fact hurt their image.

I like when random people try to pretend that they've defined cool, who has it, and what constraints it puts on their behavior.

EDIT: hartator disingenuously changed the content of his comment to be more measured. The original comment was "I like when Google tries to pretend they're still cool".

Re: G is for Google

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Post by davidcgl » Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 9:32 PM UTC

echelon wrote: post #72

rbinv wrote: post #35

From the abc.xyz source code: Sergey and I are seriously in the business of starting new things. Alphabet will also include our X lab, which incubates new efforts like Wing, our drone delivery effort http://www.hooli.xyz/" target="_blank" class="hidden-link">.

I wondered if the reorg would have any impact on the stock price. Given this joke, now I really wonder. Are we sure it isn't April 1st? Are we sure this press release isn't a hoax? This is so wild I'm having trouble believing any of it.

It's an easter egg. It's a pretty common thing Google does.

Re: G is for Google

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 9:32 PM UTC

hartator wrote: post #100

nicolethenerd wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hooli XYZ is a reference to the HBO show Silicon Valley. It has no relation to Google (other than that Hooli is basically a fictional parody of Google). Looks like some developer added that to this press release as an easter egg.

I feel Google shouldn't stop trying to pretend they are still cool hype startup, that just come up as fake. I also feel from a PR perspective it might in fact hurt their image.

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Re: G is for Google

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Post by noelsusman » Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 9:32 PM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #18

Oletros wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a list of moonshots failed?

Wave, Plus, Glasses at least. If we are to include less ambitious stuff, Google Video, Orkut, Chromebooks (never went far), Reader, Google Code, Dart, nothing much came out of Morotola, etc. And let's see were those "self driving cars" will go, market-wise...

Chromebooks are pretty popular. The first generation wasn't very good but the more recent ones are selling well.

Reader was very popular relative to the size of the RSS reader market.

Google bought Motorola for the patent portfolio and sold off the rest, so I'm not sure how that was a failure. Motorola also turned around their mobile division with the Moto X under Google (over 100% increase in mobile sales due to the Moto X and company line of products)

I remember Orkut being very popular in Asia for a while.

Re: G is for Google

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Post by josh2600 » Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 9:33 PM UTC

lallysingh wrote: post #129

josh2600 wrote: post #22

Is this purely a function of sharding liability across a conglomerate of businesses? It seems like concentrating Google's ad revenue in a smaller, more efficient business unit is a nod to Berkshire Hathaway's method of business. I can't recall this sort of thing happening in my lifetime, so it will be really interesting to see how this plays out. I also wonder how this would be treated if Google didn't have the crazy…

Re: edit 2: the stock holds all the stuff it held yesterday, right? The stock is now for alphabet.

Yep, I misread it the second time through, sorry!

Re: G is for Google

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Post by shmerl » Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 9:33 PM UTC

jordigg wrote: post #5

So all google divisions are now individual companies inside a conglomerated called Alphabet where Larry is the CEO and Sergei the President. Sundar Pichai is now the new CEO of Google. Is that right? Why do you think they are moving this way? Regulations? Taxes? What about Eric Schmidt? I don't know much about trading, but look at that "after hours" spike! http://postimg.org/image/ho5ecyr99/ EDIT: All google subsidia…

I hope Eric Schmidt won't manage Google Talk / Hangouts anymore. Then there will be a chance of fixing this mess back.

UPDATE: Hm. Judging by downvotes, some folks here liked the fact that he killed XMPP federation of Google Talk and didn't propose Hangouts as an alternative open protocol. What an achievement.

Re: G is for Google

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Post by seiji » Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 9:33 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #54

axyjo wrote: post #2

This is a big move, which might also possibly help with EU anti-trust accusations by splitting up the big-ol' monolithic GOOG into functionally separate units.

Did I miss something in the announcement? When people say that Google is "monolithic", they're saying that Google contains Youtube (#1 video site), search (#1 search), Android (#1 mobile OS), maps (#1 map site), Gmail (#1 email site?), and G+ (Facebook competitor). These companies appear to remain inside the Google corporation after the "restructuring", and so this doesn't ameliorate any of EU's concerns. I think thi…

I think this is more about changing what Larry and Sergey do all day.

This is in line with their prior strategery of continually maneuvering towards "give us more authority but no responsibility."

Re: G is for Google

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Post by ChuckMcM » Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 9:34 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #37

jordigg wrote: post #5

So all google divisions are now individual companies inside a conglomerated called Alphabet where Larry is the CEO and Sergei the President. Sundar Pichai is now the new CEO of Google. Is that right? Why do you think they are moving this way? Regulations? Taxes? What about Eric Schmidt? I don't know much about trading, but look at that "after hours" spike! http://postimg.org/image/ho5ecyr99/ EDIT: All google subsidia…

I didn't read it that way. All of Google's subsidiaries are subsidiaries of Alphabet, as is Google. But divisions inside of Google (Android, Youtube, &c) remain Google. The big news is that Larry and Sergey are stepping back into a more Warren and Charlie kind of role, and Sundar Pichai is taking over as CEO of Google. My question is, what does "slimmed down" Google mean?

I wonder where platforms (the HW company inside of Google that builds all their machines and switches) ends up. If they make it their own 'letter' (H is for Hardware?) then they could potentially have it build data center hardware for other companies. That would be interesting.

Re: G is for Google

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 9:34 PM UTC

hartator wrote: post #100

nicolethenerd wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hooli XYZ is a reference to the HBO show Silicon Valley. It has no relation to Google (other than that Hooli is basically a fictional parody of Google). Looks like some developer added that to this press release as an easter egg.

I feel Google shouldn't stop trying to pretend they are still cool hype startup, that just come up as fake. I also feel from a PR perspective it might in fact hurt their image.

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Re: G is for Google

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Post by webXL » Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 9:34 PM UTC

thought_alarm wrote: post #106

http://alphabet.com is getting hammered right now.

Not sure if that's good or bad for Alphabet International. Why would thousands of people (just a guess) hearing this news just assume that's the new domain??