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Hangouts is nice when it works but it's become something of a swear word at my work - even if it makes setting up a conference in a meeting room a lot easier.
Of course, I still have to run Chrome just for a slow and terrible browser interface on the desktop. Which was a major annoyance (especially since for some reason using Safari extends battery life for a huge amount) that caused me to switch to Telegram.
>especially since for some reason using Safari extends battery life for a huge amount on a side note i see several people say this but using a 2015 mbp I don't really see this battery draining behavior. Can anyone point to benchmarks or has anyone actually done a real test on this assumption ?
[0]: http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/10/8381447/chrome-macbook-bat...
And here I was excited thinking that they'd finally fixed the terrible performance and interface of the browser app.
Yeah, the browser addon for Hangouts is literally the worst thing Google has ever done, IMO. On the Mac it is even worse. I would be seriously surprised if anyone at Google actually used this POS.
> (iOS users recently got many of the same updates). How is it that Google is still "iOS first." I mean, I love my iPhone and am happy that Google feels the need to update iOS apps before Android. But why? That's like Microsoft being OSX First, it just doesn't make any sense.
Not necessarily. Google Hangouts is still a much integrated experience on Android. iOS also doesn't have the Dialer app for example.
Does it support WebRTC phone calling from the browser? Hangouts annoys me for a number of reasons however. And the biggest one is the fact that Google used it as a pretense to kill their federated XMPP service. This literally cut more than a half of my contacts off (i.e. those who use Google), because they don't accept bugs for enabling server to server encryption anymore. I don't remember being upset about Google me…
Does it come with end-to-end encryption yet? It's a strange world we live in where I feel my data is safer in a Facebook app than in a Google one.
"Critics are quick to point out that if a user is not paying for a product, they are the product, and of course encrypting notifications from Facebook won't stop the social media behemoth from accessing all the data itself. The only way to protect one's data from Facebook is to stop using Facebook." http://readwrite.com/2015/06/03/facebook-pgp-encryption
Does it support WebRTC phone calling from the browser? Hangouts annoys me for a number of reasons however. And the biggest one is the fact that Google used it as a pretense to kill their federated XMPP service. This literally cut more than a half of my contacts off (i.e. those who use Google), because they don't accept bugs for enabling server to server encryption anymore. I don't remember being upset about Google me…
Hey there! So just to understand how you use your clients, you want something that can federate XMPP (so you can chat with everyone that you've chatted with beforehand), but also be able to escalate upwards to a WebRTC call?
For IM I use another XMPP server and client. However I had a lot of contacts who were Google Talk users. At some point, most XMPP servers made server to server encryption mandatory. Which essentially cut off all contacts who use Google Talk from me (since my server can't anymore federate with Google Talk which remained insecure and refused to accept any bug reports about it).
Of course, I still have to run Chrome just for a slow and terrible browser interface on the desktop. Which was a major annoyance (especially since for some reason using Safari extends battery life for a huge amount) that caused me to switch to Telegram.
There were a pile of power management fixes coming in Chrome 45 - see https://plus.google.com/+PeterKasting/posts/GpL63A1K2TF ...currently out there in the beta update stream, shouldn't be far off now.
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The convenience of being able to use several devices (laptop, tablet, phone) to seamlessly continue conversations is pretty much the main reason I like these services. Pidgin and Adium do not support (transferrable) chat history and do not show messages when I'm offline, which is a huge usability hit. Especially when people talking on the other side expect that the messages are visible to you even if you're not immed…
> Pidgin and Adium do not support (transferrable) chat history and do not show messages when I'm offline, which is a huge usability hit. This times a million. GChat (now "hangouts"), though their XMPP interface, attempts to send new messages only to the "active" client, which means that if you try to use Pidgin or Adium (I used both myself for a number of years; they're fantastic applications) or any other XMPP clien…
They miss notifications and occasionally messages on their own clients too, but I guess it isn't as consistently repeatable.
Of course, I still have to run Chrome just for a slow and terrible browser interface on the desktop. Which was a major annoyance (especially since for some reason using Safari extends battery life for a huge amount) that caused me to switch to Telegram.
There were a pile of power management fixes coming in Chrome 45 - see https://plus.google.com/+PeterKasting/posts/GpL63A1K2TF ...currently out there in the beta update stream, shouldn't be far off now.