I was going to try it, but it looks like too many people are killing their myspaces alread.
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suppose the first step, then, would be to give people around you a real living example of what it means to "be the change you want to see in the world".
Good idea. I have a job and bathe regularly. Yet I walk through the ghetto every day, and find that folks there are still unemployed and smelly. They're just not following my example like they should!
Memetic propagation is not instantaneous, grasshopper.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know you're speaking with tongue-in-cheek but there's some unsettling truth to what you say. People can be less involved in their community if they can just escape to like-minded havens on the internet rather than fixing the real issues going on around them (see al3x's post about fleeing to Portland for reference: http://al3x.net/ ).
As a long-time San Francisco resident I found it irksome that Alex was so quick to bemoan the lack of culture to consume without showing any possible interest in creating any. In my opinion, San Francisco is a beautiful place for creators.
Well it's particularly odd because he claims he received a lot of feedback from other SFers who all see the same issues as he does and are equally fed up.
I say it's odd because the startup culture is be all about opportunism.
Is accountability/sane governance that intractable of a problem that people would rather move than meet the demand?
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
they can just escape to like-minded havens on the internet rather than fixing the real issues going on around them For most people, the world just won't stay saved, so they begin to wonder, why keep going to the effort to save it?
I suppose the first step, then, would be to give people around you a real living example of what it means to "be the change you want to see in the world".
I think looking for a bit more leverage than that might be a better first step. There's more opportunity to improve the world via technological changes than social changes, it seems to me; huge numbers of people and organizations put a lot of effort into social change for little or no result. Henry Ford probably had as much effect on the social fabric of the US as all the civil rights workers of the 20th century (though not necessarily in the same direction, and arguably not the effect he would have preferred to have).
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#25Wanna meet your real neighbours again? God no. That's why the Internet is so awesome - we're not limited to the people we unfortunately find ourselves surrounded by in "real life." Still, good joke ;-)
You should give http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_Alone a read. Might offer some new perspective: He has described the reduction in all the forms of in-person social intercourse upon which Americans used to found, educate, and enrich the fabric of their social lives. He believes this undermines the active civil engagement a strong democracy required from its citizens.
There was a story on NPR a few years ago about this exact phenomenon in retirement communities in Florida. Places where there was no one under the age of 55 and no kids around.
The societies quickly degenerate because no one has any incentive to invest in infrastructure beyond what they can use in the next 10-15 years. They care about the functioning of the society to the extent that it affects them directly.
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#26Wanna meet your real neighbours again? God no. That's why the Internet is so awesome - we're not limited to the people we unfortunately find ourselves surrounded by in "real life." Still, good joke ;-)
It's dangerous to get to know your neighbours -- if you don't like them, they're hard to avoid. Better to be socially close to those you can physically avoid, and socially distant from those you can't.
You and I have different definitions of dangerous. Risky might be a better word. But the right word for that sentence is probably "unpleasant" or "vexing". Dangerous is getting your hand caught in your disposal. Not being able to talk to a neighbor is like getting a piece of food caught in your disposal.
I'd say it's more dangerous to not know your neighbors. If you're ever in trouble in your neighborhood (where you might logically spend a lot of your time) you can rely upon them. If they don't know you, they might be less willing to help in a situation involving actual danger.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's dangerous to get to know your neighbours -- if you don't like them, they're hard to avoid. Better to be socially close to those you can physically avoid, and socially distant from those you can't.
You and I have different definitions of dangerous. Risky might be a better word. But the right word for that sentence is probably "unpleasant" or "vexing". Dangerous is getting your hand caught in your disposal. Not being able to talk to a neighbor is like getting a piece of food caught in your disposal. I'd say it's more dangerous to not know your neighbors. If you're ever in trouble in your neighborhood (where you…
I think... hope... he was being sarcastic.
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#28We need the reverse ... spam your social networks with your real-world suicide, as explored at http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=831537.
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#29Wanna meet your real neighbours again? God no. That's why the Internet is so awesome - we're not limited to the people we unfortunately find ourselves surrounded by in "real life." Still, good joke ;-)
I know you're speaking with tongue-in-cheek but there's some unsettling truth to what you say. People can be less involved in their community if they can just escape to like-minded havens on the internet rather than fixing the real issues going on around them (see al3x's post about fleeing to Portland for reference: http://al3x.net/ ).
I went to a church on Christmas Eve last year for the carols and I found it invigorating and enlightening to talk to people who weren't 20-something grad students or professors. I worry that we're missing out on something by congregating in social and intellectual monocultures in which we are never challenged by someone that sees the world from a different viewpoint.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good idea. I have a job and bathe regularly. Yet I walk through the ghetto every day, and find that folks there are still unemployed and smelly. They're just not following my example like they should!
I was thinking more along the lines of starting your tech company in a city whose cup doesn't overflow with them and creating jobs locally rather than having all of the tech talent in america move to the bay area.
Moving some of the folks on the right side of the bell curve to a new city won't necessarily help out the folks on the left side. The Bay Area has lots of tech jobs AND unemployed and smelly people.