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The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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The fascinating thing is, there's already Russian propaganda in that article's comments - called web brigades. They just mention that there is no conflict between Russia and Ukraine, although Russia send unofficial armed troups to Ukrain :p, because they didn't allowed the coupe of "obama's" administration. The problem is, America didn't send any troops to Ukrain, Russia did: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews…

Just another reason I can't wait for iOS 9 content blockers. On Chrome desktop I use ShutUp to block all comments on the net except for whitelisted sites.

The problem with that is you may eventually end up in a bubble that matches your believes and reality.

Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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The fascinating thing is, there's already Russian propaganda in that article's comments - called web brigades. They just mention that there is no conflict between Russia and Ukraine, although Russia send unofficial armed troups to Ukrain :p, because they didn't allowed the coupe of "obama's" administration. The problem is, America didn't send any troops to Ukrain, Russia did: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews…

"The problem is, America didn't send any troops to Ukrain, Russia did" Well, this is open to debate. Russia DID sent troops to Crimea but was legally and contractual allowed to do so.

Counter question: Why are armed US soldiers flying to Ukraine? Dear Hunting?

http://www.krone.at/Oesterreich/Bewaffnete_US-Soldaten_in_Wi...

Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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post #5

Can someone explain how they get the money out? I understand that they hack a company, send themselves money to a bank in China... and then? Can't the chinese just trace the money and go tell the bank to give it back? Do they use money mules to get the money in cash, if so how do they distribute it to the many members?

The 'money-mules' are typically tricked into allowing them to deposit funds into their bank accounts. If you open a brand new bank account you are subjected to holding periods for deposits/transfers. If you trick an existing bank customer into depositing, withdrawing, and then MG/WU/MoneyPak a portion of the funds to you then you can do it in 1 business day.

A common variation of this in the USA is with check fraud. They trick unsuspecting people into mobile depositing a check and then transferring a % of the funds back to them. I suspect in the Russian scam they are using the botnet to imitate victims as a sock5. They have all the information they need so they just initiate a trade and then block their access to email+banking+??.

Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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The fascinating thing is, there's already Russian propaganda in that article's comments - called web brigades. They just mention that there is no conflict between Russia and Ukraine, although Russia send unofficial armed troups to Ukrain :p, because they didn't allowed the coupe of "obama's" administration. The problem is, America didn't send any troops to Ukrain, Russia did: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews…

Of course, the US and Five Eyes are doing the same thing; they're just better at it. It's mind boggling how our media is consistently forgetting to notice that Crimea has been trying to get itself annexed by Russia since Ukraine and Russia become countries.

If anything is clear, it's that the Crimea is a terrible place to live right now. It doesn't appear that there is a solid populist opinion--the conflict was obviously precipitated by Russian pressure.

Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just another reason I can't wait for iOS 9 content blockers. On Chrome desktop I use ShutUp to block all comments on the net except for whitelisted sites.

The problem with that is you may eventually end up in a bubble that matches your believes and reality.

Pick your battles. Online comments are probably not worth your energy.

Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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post #9

The fascinating thing is, there's already Russian propaganda in that article's comments - called web brigades. They just mention that there is no conflict between Russia and Ukraine, although Russia send unofficial armed troups to Ukrain :p, because they didn't allowed the coupe of "obama's" administration. The problem is, America didn't send any troops to Ukrain, Russia did: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews…

It isn't Obama's coup. It's Victoria Nuland and the Big Oil coup. Here's a video of Victoria Nuland of the Department of State claiming U.S. has spent $5 billion since 1991 to 'build democratic institutions' in Ukraine, at around 07:30. Take note of the sponsorship flags by Chevron and ExxonMobil in the background. Note how she uses the word 'invested'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y0y-JUsPTU#t=448 IMO that is ev…

True, but americans are blind to this sort of 'non-democratic' truth.

Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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The fascinating thing is, there's already Russian propaganda in that article's comments - called web brigades. They just mention that there is no conflict between Russia and Ukraine, although Russia send unofficial armed troups to Ukrain :p, because they didn't allowed the coupe of "obama's" administration. The problem is, America didn't send any troops to Ukrain, Russia did: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews…

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Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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The fascinating thing is, there's already Russian propaganda in that article's comments - called web brigades. They just mention that there is no conflict between Russia and Ukraine, although Russia send unofficial armed troups to Ukrain :p, because they didn't allowed the coupe of "obama's" administration. The problem is, America didn't send any troops to Ukrain, Russia did: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews…

Of course, the US and Five Eyes are doing the same thing; they're just better at it. It's mind boggling how our media is consistently forgetting to notice that Crimea has been trying to get itself annexed by Russia since Ukraine and Russia become countries.

Yeah, Eastern Ukraine (ethnic Russians) vs the rest have been at each other's throats for a while. This was the logical conclusion of years of discontent.

Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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The fascinating thing is, there's already Russian propaganda in that article's comments - called web brigades. They just mention that there is no conflict between Russia and Ukraine, although Russia send unofficial armed troups to Ukrain :p, because they didn't allowed the coupe of "obama's" administration. The problem is, America didn't send any troops to Ukrain, Russia did: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews…

Absolute bullshit. Just as in Georgia in 08, the US/Nato/EU is working on isolating Russia in it's strategic choke points, and had boots on the ground instigating the Ukrainian "revolution", and while the Ukrainian people have plenty of valid issues that were being failed to be addressed, that doesn't change the fact that they have been manipulated into the position they're in. Primarily, the Kiev fascist clique taking over the power structures on the back of a semi-legitimate series of causes.

Now, if we want to have an honest and open intellectual discussion about the return to a tripolar world in which resource wars are around the corner and this is simply IMF/US/Nato setting up strategic position in the region, and Russia's response is a rational strategic one, let's have that conversation and debate, and we can get into whether we think it's the right move on our part or not, but lets not pretend like the propaganda is true (that is if the truth is truly what you are interested in. Your comment doesn't indicate it is, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and just consider you misinformed.)

Ukraine is a perfect modern example of the economic hitmen sending in the jackals, as described by John Perkins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_portrayal_of_the_Ukraini...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/natos-perilous-gambit/5463315

http://newcoldwar.org/the-policy-of-the-u-s-and-eu-in-the-uk...

Bonus for anyone who has gotten this far: Operation Gladio (B)

edit: downvoted without discussion, why am I not surprised.

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