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The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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The fascinating thing is, there's already Russian propaganda in that article's comments - called web brigades.

They just mention that there is no conflict between Russia and Ukraine, although Russia send unofficial armed troups to Ukrain :p, because they didn't allowed the coupe of "obama's" administration.

The problem is, America didn't send any troops to Ukrain, Russia did:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/1165...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades

Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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The fascinating thing is, there's already Russian propaganda in that article's comments - called web brigades. They just mention that there is no conflict between Russia and Ukraine, although Russia send unofficial armed troups to Ukrain :p, because they didn't allowed the coupe of "obama's" administration. The problem is, America didn't send any troops to Ukrain, Russia did: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews…

I'm also being tired of the Russian propaganda. When you have a look on /r/worldnews or /r/news on Reddit, all you see is a fight between US propaganda and Russian propaganda, I don't even go there anymore, I just stay on /r/cooking and /r/science now, no propaganda there ! (and just go to /r/russia if you want to have some fun and see what I'm talking about).

Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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The fascinating thing is, there's already Russian propaganda in that article's comments - called web brigades. They just mention that there is no conflict between Russia and Ukraine, although Russia send unofficial armed troups to Ukrain :p, because they didn't allowed the coupe of "obama's" administration. The problem is, America didn't send any troops to Ukrain, Russia did: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews…

Just another reason I can't wait for iOS 9 content blockers. On Chrome desktop I use ShutUp to block all comments on the net except for whitelisted sites.

Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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Can someone explain how they get the money out? I understand that they hack a company, send themselves money to a bank in China... and then? Can't the chinese just trace the money and go tell the bank to give it back? Do they use money mules to get the money in cash, if so how do they distribute it to the many members?

Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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post #5

Can someone explain how they get the money out? I understand that they hack a company, send themselves money to a bank in China... and then? Can't the chinese just trace the money and go tell the bank to give it back? Do they use money mules to get the money in cash, if so how do they distribute it to the many members?

The article references recruiting Money Mules. These are typically people hired or coerced into using cloned bank cards to withdraw cash from ATMs.

Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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The fascinating thing is, there's already Russian propaganda in that article's comments - called web brigades. They just mention that there is no conflict between Russia and Ukraine, although Russia send unofficial armed troups to Ukrain :p, because they didn't allowed the coupe of "obama's" administration. The problem is, America didn't send any troops to Ukrain, Russia did: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews…

I'm also being tired of the Russian propaganda. When you have a look on /r/worldnews or /r/news on Reddit, all you see is a fight between US propaganda and Russian propaganda, I don't even go there anymore, I just stay on /r/cooking and /r/science now, no propaganda there ! (and just go to /r/russia if you want to have some fun and see what I'm talking about).

Just looked at /r/russia and I am still not sure it isn't an elaborate parody sub...

Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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The fascinating thing is, there's already Russian propaganda in that article's comments - called web brigades. They just mention that there is no conflict between Russia and Ukraine, although Russia send unofficial armed troups to Ukrain :p, because they didn't allowed the coupe of "obama's" administration. The problem is, America didn't send any troops to Ukrain, Russia did: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews…

Of course, the US and Five Eyes are doing the same thing; they're just better at it. It's mind boggling how our media is consistently forgetting to notice that Crimea has been trying to get itself annexed by Russia since Ukraine and Russia become countries.

Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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The fascinating thing is, there's already Russian propaganda in that article's comments - called web brigades. They just mention that there is no conflict between Russia and Ukraine, although Russia send unofficial armed troups to Ukrain :p, because they didn't allowed the coupe of "obama's" administration. The problem is, America didn't send any troops to Ukrain, Russia did: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews…

It isn't Obama's coup. It's Victoria Nuland and the Big Oil coup. Here's a video of Victoria Nuland of the Department of State claiming U.S. has spent $5 billion since 1991 to 'build democratic institutions' in Ukraine, at around 07:30. Take note of the sponsorship flags by Chevron and ExxonMobil in the background. Note how she uses the word 'invested'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y0y-JUsPTU#t=448

IMO that is evidence of past U.S. interference in Ukraine's political affairs.

Next time you pay for a Uber ride - remember the government has spent at least that much for every person in the U.S. to interfere in Ukraine politics, a country all the way up to the border of Russia.

Last time the reverse happened to the U.S, they tried to assassinate Fidel Castro, blockaded Cuba into poverty and invaded the country with 1500 soldiers and 8 B-26 bombers.

Re: The $100M ‘Business Club’ Crime Gang

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post #5

Can someone explain how they get the money out? I understand that they hack a company, send themselves money to a bank in China... and then? Can't the chinese just trace the money and go tell the bank to give it back? Do they use money mules to get the money in cash, if so how do they distribute it to the many members?

The article references recruiting Money Mules. These are typically people hired or coerced into using cloned bank cards to withdraw cash from ATMs.

Yeah, and either those get no punishment at all - because they're considered victims - or a light punishment. They can't link back to whoever gave them the orders either.
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