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Re: Show HN: Simple but Powerful IDE for Databases

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Post by projektfu »

etatoby wrote: post #75
SomeHacker44 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about JetBrains’s entire suite of IDEs? They are Java (well, now probably mostly Kotlin, but still JVM) based and cross-platform and as a user of those and previously Vi/Emacs for three decades I can say totally belong in my toolkit.

I begrudgingly use IDEA because for some languages I cannot get nearly the same level of productivity with better tools, such as Vim or Sublime. But that doesn't mean I like using the damned thing. As soon as I can ditch it, I will and I do. Same goes for all the Electron rubbish. Every time I have to wait a few seconds after clicking on something trivial, like the File top-level menu, I remind myself of how much my…

"I begrudgingly use IDEA because for some languages I cannot get nearly the same level of productivity with better tools" Hmm. That's an oddly worded complaint.

Re: Show HN: Simple but Powerful IDE for Databases

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Post by tclancy »

russellbeattie wrote: post #74
arboghast wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's DBeaver Community

I'm pretty sure the GUI developers of DBeaver are blind sadists who want to punish all database admins for their sins. It would be considered 'cruel and unusual' in any U.S. court of law. It's not just ugly, it's a crime against humanity itself. Small animals within 10 yards of a computer inexplicably die any time the program is started. That said, it really is quite useful and usually the best tool to get db stuff d…

Phew, it's not just me then. I use it in a clean room after locking the house up.

The fact I happened to save one ad-hoc SQL query now means every time I hit the "New script" button I have an interstitial step where I have to say, "No, not that script, a new one" is frustrating.

Re: Show HN: Simple but Powerful IDE for Databases

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Post by cr0sh »

lunchladydoris wrote: post #76

If you have IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate, try the Database plugin. It essentially turns IntelliJ into DataGrip (their dedicated database IDE).

Now if only they'd do this with clion.

/yeah, I know that it went the opposite way; it just bugs me that I can't have great C/C++ support in IntelliJ like you used to get with the plugin that no longer works...

Re: Show HN: Simple but Powerful IDE for Databases

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Post by gloflo »

russellbeattie wrote: post #74
arboghast wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's DBeaver Community

I'm pretty sure the GUI developers of DBeaver are blind sadists who want to punish all database admins for their sins. It would be considered 'cruel and unusual' in any U.S. court of law. It's not just ugly, it's a crime against humanity itself. Small animals within 10 yards of a computer inexplicably die any time the program is started. That said, it really is quite useful and usually the best tool to get db stuff d…

Dead beaver.

Re: Show HN: Simple but Powerful IDE for Databases

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Post by mamon »

projektfu wrote: post #91
etatoby wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I begrudgingly use IDEA because for some languages I cannot get nearly the same level of productivity with better tools, such as Vim or Sublime. But that doesn't mean I like using the damned thing. As soon as I can ditch it, I will and I do. Same goes for all the Electron rubbish. Every time I have to wait a few seconds after clicking on something trivial, like the File top-level menu, I remind myself of how much my…

"I begrudgingly use IDEA because for some languages I cannot get nearly the same level of productivity with better tools" Hmm. That's an oddly worded complaint.

I wonder what's the metric used to call those other tools better, if not productivity?

Re: Show HN: Simple but Powerful IDE for Databases

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Post by h1d »

bdcravens wrote: post #72
nexact wrote: post #50

One-time fee okay. 40$ a month? Hell no.

DataGrip is $20 a month for more features. However, after you've paid for 12 months you get perpetual access, so you can essentially pay for 12 months (or yearly at $199) and it essentially becomes a one-time license to that version if you'd rather not keep paying. (I've been a DataGrip customer for a couple of years now)

Also gets cheaper on 2nd and 3rd year.

Re: Show HN: Simple but Powerful IDE for Databases

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Post by dotancohen »

arboghast wrote: post #64
AquaLineSpirit wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the open source alternative?

There's DBeaver Community

Serious question, what advantage do any of these GUIs have over the CLI provided by most databases? Or for something more fancy, the mycli family of tools.

Re: Show HN: Simple but Powerful IDE for Databases

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Post by SomeHacker44 »

etatoby wrote: post #75
SomeHacker44 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about JetBrains’s entire suite of IDEs? They are Java (well, now probably mostly Kotlin, but still JVM) based and cross-platform and as a user of those and previously Vi/Emacs for three decades I can say totally belong in my toolkit.

I begrudgingly use IDEA because for some languages I cannot get nearly the same level of productivity with better tools, such as Vim or Sublime. But that doesn't mean I like using the damned thing. As soon as I can ditch it, I will and I do. Same goes for all the Electron rubbish. Every time I have to wait a few seconds after clicking on something trivial, like the File top-level menu, I remind myself of how much my…

I have used VI (and successors) since 1988, and Emacs since 1990, and have tried many other IDEs through the years (Eclipse, NetBeans, Sublime, VS Code, Atom, and tons of others). My go-to are the IDEs from JetBrains now, except for Common Lisp and Haskell (Emacs, although Haskell may be changing). Clojure, Java, Scala, Python, Ruby, Go, SQL, JavaScript, C#, F#, and many others, are all supported in one IDE (IDEA) or in multiple (my personal preference).

I personally have no performance problems with JetBrains IDEs, but maybe I have tuned them up after years of using them... (Or tuned down my expectations? Can't really say offhand.)

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