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Re: Show HN: Pdfwithlove – PDF tools that run 100% locally (no uploads, no back end)

#83
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Due to pdf popularity there is a lot of demand for pdf processing tools. And the format is so complex that there are many nontrivial and creative ways to do pdf processing. That's why these "Hello World" projects usually make Top 5 on HN, and one of the upvotes is usually from me.

>many nontrivial and creative ways to do pdf processing They're all wrapping PDFlib and provide the same functionality.

I am already well served by ghostscript, GIMP, Imagemagick, etc:

Optimize PDF:

    #!/bin/bash
    INPUT="$1"
    OUTPUT="$(mktemp --suffix=.pdf)"
    gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -dPDFSETTINGS=/ebook \
    -dNOPAUSE -dQUIET -dBATCH -sOutputFile="$OUTPUT" "$INPUT"
    mv "$OUTPUT" "$INPUT"
Merge PDF:

    #!/bin/sh
    gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite \
      -dCompatibilityLevel=1.3 -dPDFSETTINGS=/ebook \
      -sOutputFile=merged.pdf "$@"
And so on and so forth.

Moreover, I see a webapp and I immediately assume everything I do in this app is exfiltrated and abused.

I can check that the webapp advertised above is indeed local-first, but I can't be 100% sure they don't steal my data in a way I did not foresee, e.g. via websockets or cookies.

Because I learnt this the hard way by being on Instagram and Gmail.

Re: Show HN: Pdfwithlove – PDF tools that run 100% locally (no uploads, no back end)

#84
post #81

I'm hoping one of these efforts will lead to local translation of PDFs. Anyone aware of one? Not local, but the best I've found is using Google Translate via camera/images.

yah good Idea I will try to implelment it

Re: Show HN: Pdfwithlove – PDF tools that run 100% locally (no uploads, no back end)

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s still a work in progress. I used an LLM to speed up development, and I’ve done the testing, but I’ll keep improving it no doubt

How much of this is LLM derived and how much of it is yours?

None of it is them, all of it is LLMs.

Re: Show HN: Pdfwithlove – PDF tools that run 100% locally (no uploads, no back end)

#86

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So if a platform is vibe-coded, it suddenly has no value? When the Spotify founder vibe-codes an app, it’s praised—but when an open-source contributor like me does it, it’s seen as a bad thing? That doesn’t seem fair

Where is the source then?

change my mind after the tailwind thing happened not going to open source it for now.

Re: Show HN: Pdfwithlove – PDF tools that run 100% locally (no uploads, no back end)

#87
post #22

Was this done heavily LLM assisted? Especially the PDF Edit tools have user-interaction quirks and bugs that a human developer would catch immediately during the regular manual testing when developing. I'd suggest you at least try and mitigate that by having the LLM do extensive e2e testing if you aren't interested in using your own product.

Yeah, and I have the feeling it is not tested at all.

It offers Word -> PDF conversion. Just for interest I tried it and it doesn't even get the simplest page right. It puts the filename into an header. The test page had 4 images, one svg, one pdf (from svg), and another variation of the first 2. The generated PDF only contains 2 of those images with wrong sizes. The later two are missing. So it's basically completely useless.

The free of charge LibreOffice gives much better results with its own caveats.

Re: Show HN: Pdfwithlove – PDF tools that run 100% locally (no uploads, no back end)

#88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So Claude Workspace is also written using the Claude LLM—does that mean you would stop using the product?

That's whataboutism, we're not discussing Claude Workspace, we're discussing 'Pdfwithlove' so you are avoiding answering the question.

don't want to go in debate. It's ok, I used LLM to make a product faster

Re: Show HN: Pdfwithlove – PDF tools that run 100% locally (no uploads, no back end)

#89
I wonder why everything now is written in web frameworks. Meanwhile I am currently using macos which has a magnificent PDF tool called... Preview. It allows annotate, merge, realign pages, insert one page from another document or even a JPEG-scan, etc.

However, before the courtesy of my company giving me a macos-enabled gear - I had to cope with PDFs using multiple apps on Windows and Linux. Recently I got there again and found out that PDF support is really weak in Linux, and the formerly award winning Acrobat Reader now looks slow and poor, trying to steal my data and occupy as much space as possible. Also Acrobat Reader reference browser for linux is killed now.

Hence, the question. If everyone is using PDF, why there are no good, fast native tools? and... why are we even staying with PDF?

Re: Show HN: Pdfwithlove – PDF tools that run 100% locally (no uploads, no back end)

#90
post #37

Seeing it on GitHub I thought there was source code so that I can self-host it. Unfortunately that’s not the case :( Really nice project btw!

Thanks. After the recent incident with Tailwind around revenue and sustainability, it’s difficult to make this open source for now

It was always very hard to make money directly from open source. The Tailwind thing (incident??) was only notable in terms of its publicity. The fact that they thought they could make money from code the customer doesn't have to pay for is the incident perhaps?
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