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Re: Show HN: Code2flow – easy flowcharts with no mouse, no dragging and no hassle

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Post by viklas »

RushPL wrote: post #2

Hey y'all, I've been working on this part time for a couple of years now. Recently it started getting more traffic so I thought I'd try sharing this project with hacker news. If it's useful to you, and the free app is good for most use cases, then hopefully it will reach wider audience. Cheers.

Like everyone else...well done. Great concept, easy to learn, nice results. I'll probably be a paying customer one day.

Font-resizing would be nice on the visual view. And killer feature would be two way interaction, but I can imagine that's a tricky one.

Here's a generic "SaaS subscription workflow" I made up in about 20 mins.

https://code2flow.com/NDIQIf

Love it!

Re: Show HN: Code2flow – easy flowcharts with no mouse, no dragging and no hassle

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Post by taspeotis »

RushPL wrote: post #53
hacker_9 wrote: post #51

1. Smart. Plays to the strengths of the keyboard by using text input, vs awkward dragging of elements with the mouse (especially with big graphs). 2. Is 'pseudo code' the best description to use? Even the word 'code' can put non-technical people off as they associate it with complexity. 3. The pricing: hosting and support are good reasons to pay, but 'full confidentiality'? It seems you are going out of your way to m…

Great feedback. Thank you. 2) Probably not good for nontechnical people but on the other hand most accurate for technical people. 3) Your point sounds reasonable. How would you describe the need of some companies need to host 100% of their data? Medical companies for example. This is the point I was trying to convey in the pricing. 4) Square is the new web 3.0 :)

How would you describe the need of some companies need to host 100% of their data

The phrase "data sovereignty requirements" comes to mind.

Re: Show HN: Code2flow – easy flowcharts with no mouse, no dragging and no hassle

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Post by endergen »

otahi wrote: post #52
endergen wrote: post #23

I've been playing with a real time visualization of various graph visualizations that have nice text DSLs. Current progress is open source and includes an Atom Package for editing and visualizing results on the fly, as well as a command line tool for generating SVGso from the textual representations. https://atom.io/packages/diagrams and https://www.npmjs.com/package/diagrams Desktop oriented for offline use.

Looks great! I think StackEdit is another tool to create flowcharts and sequence diagrams. https://stackedit.io/editor https://github.com/benweet/stackedit/blob/master/public/res/... We can create a flow chart with following markdown. ```flow st=>start e=>end st->e ```

This is awesome!

Re: Show HN: Code2flow – easy flowcharts with no mouse, no dragging and no hassle

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Post by mSparks »

mplewis wrote: post #79
mSparks wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not even sure using graphvis in this way is legal. I certainly wont be paying $300 a month for a free download. At&t certainly wont be pleased.

Graphviz is under the Eclipse Public License, which allows commercial use.

But requires "royality free" distribution. so charging per month and limiting to internal use only for self hosted product isnt in agreement with the licence.

Re: Show HN: Code2flow – easy flowcharts with no mouse, no dragging and no hassle

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Post by kareemm »

kareemm wrote: post #48
Fiahil wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope your pricing model ($100-$300/month) is meant as a joke, and you're not really serious about it. It's extremely expensive. I can drag and drop text boxes in google docs just fine and it's not costing me a dime. The added productivity would be worth it if I was doing this all day long, but it's not the case (as a software engineer).

Ignore this feedback. You have validated that customers will pay what you're charging, which means what they're getting is less valuable than what they're paying. Keep it up!

Too late to edit but if it wasn't I would have corrected the above to "what they're getting is MORE valuable than what they're getting."

Re: Show HN: Code2flow – easy flowcharts with no mouse, no dragging and no hassle

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Post by ljw1001 »

RushPL wrote: post #50
Fiahil wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope your pricing model ($100-$300/month) is meant as a joke, and you're not really serious about it. It's extremely expensive. I can drag and drop text boxes in google docs just fine and it's not costing me a dime. The added productivity would be worth it if I was doing this all day long, but it's not the case (as a software engineer).

You're welcome to use the free trial version and I can assure you that the SaaS paid version will be very affordable. As for $100/$300 pricing, these are on premise business/enterprise versions meant to be used by bigger teams where data confidentiality is crucial.

Consider repricing to $99 and $299, respectively. It seems like a cheap trick but (a) it's been shown many times to work, and (b) especially with the former, you may just put yourself inside someone's purchasing limit.

Re: Show HN: Code2flow – easy flowcharts with no mouse, no dragging and no hassle

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Post by WhitneyLand »

RushPL wrote: post #43
WhitneyLand wrote: post #41

How do you arrive at the pricing model for this? $100 per month $300 per month? How is that justified? Also how do you win against competitors? Is this project something that couldn't be duplicated in a week or so? No disrespect intended, maybe there is more to it that I'm seeing.

Let me start by saying that the free trial is perfectly functional and you can use the product totally for free and you are welcome to! The pricing for individuals is gonna be published soon along with the SaaS product. It's probably gonna be something like $10/mo but still couple more features need to be built to justify that (like permanent links which content can be edited) As for the $100/mo - we do have business…

Sorry I wasn't questioning your ethics. I meant how do you justify the strategy that it will be a successful business model, or what was your thought process in coming to that price.

I absolutely support you charging as much as people will pay! It sounds like you have already started to prove the model. Wish you success.

Re: Show HN: Code2flow – easy flowcharts with no mouse, no dragging and no hassle

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Post by mmgutz »

jbob2000 wrote: post #61
mmgutz wrote: post #34

Another alternative is [PlantUML]( http://plantuml.com/activity-diagram-legacy ) which also has sequence, class ... diagrams

Stay the hell away. We had to use this at my last job and it drove people nuts.

Kind of surprised. My team uses it and the fact that it is all text driven (works with git) has them all sold. We mostly use class and sequence diagrams.
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