Show HN: Immersive Gaussian Splat experience of Sutro Tower, San Francisco

Post by adamiscool8 » Fri, Feb 21, 2025, 12:35 AM UTC

m-ee wrote: post #59

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There would be 3-4X the people, yet still the same amount of roads, services, and public utilities. Why is densifying always seen as some unalloyed good? I constantly see this pitched as a plan for housing problems without the basic consideration of whether human beings thrive in such an unnatural environment. If you're going to force-densify anything, why not actual low-per-capita population areas [0] and develop ma…

Public schools are closing due to lack of enrollment. Transit agencies are cutting back from low ridership and lack of fare revenue. If housing costs were low enough for more people to move in affordably it could be a boon for the city.

Post by mindwork » Fri, Feb 21, 2025, 12:36 AM UTC

cbeach wrote: post #38

legitster wrote: post #28

Completely unrelated, but aerial views of San Francisco blow my mind with how under-zoned the city is. One of the most desirable places on earth to live and it's on a small peninsula. Yet it's a sea of single-family homes as far as the eye can see. The distance between Sutro Tower and the "Downtown" SF is less than the distance between the Brooklyn Bridge and Central Park. But could you imagine if that space was fill…

> One of the most desirable places on earth to live and it's on a small peninsula. Yet it's a sea of single-family homes as far as the eye can see. Ever wondered if it’s desirable BECAUSE it’s not a dense urban jungle?

Post by adamiscool8 » Fri, Feb 21, 2025, 12:40 AM UTC

FredPret wrote: post #63

adamiscool8 wrote: post #56

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There would be 3-4X the people, yet still the same amount of roads, services, and public utilities. Why is densifying always seen as some unalloyed good? I constantly see this pitched as a plan for housing problems without the basic consideration of whether human beings thrive in such an unnatural environment. If you're going to force-densify anything, why not actual low-per-capita population areas [0] and develop ma…

I enjoy both low and high density living. The argument in favour of density is that if you increase density, then you also decrease the average distance that people have to travel until they get somewhere interesting, like a job or a shop. Vehicle-delivered utilities like garbage collection, package deliveries, and mass transit get more efficient, and the same goes for tunnel-delivered utilities like fiber internet a…

Post by yieldcrv » Fri, Feb 21, 2025, 12:46 AM UTC

skyyler wrote: post #57

cbeach wrote: post #38

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> One of the most desirable places on earth to live and it's on a small peninsula. Yet it's a sea of single-family homes as far as the eye can see. Ever wondered if it’s desirable BECAUSE it’s not a dense urban jungle?

No. It is the good weather capital of the country. Mild winters, mild summers. Not too much rain. No serious threat from tornadoes or hurricanes. That’s a very big draw and it wouldn’t go away by making more dense housing, even if the rest of the peninsula was developed like Manhattan.

Post by crazygringo » Fri, Feb 21, 2025, 12:51 AM UTC

adamiscool8 wrote: post #69

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I would not say that dense city living is not without its downsides. But if people need to work in these cities, they may as well get to live closer. And if you are already living in an apartment, it's not that much different to live in a 6 story apartment building vs a 4 story one. > There would be 3-4X the people, yet still the same amount of roads, services, and public utilities. That's the point! Per capita, it s…

Is it cheaper because the infrastructure is going farther, or because every individual is getting less and less of an overburdened commons? If you build out instead and everyone gets the SFH white-picket-fence life, the escape to nature is suddenly less important. Even if it's more expensive to connect, in the process we develop ample capacity in the commons. Maybe it's just not possible with so much cost focus and s…