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Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by sircastor »

VincentEvans wrote: post #401
ronyeh wrote: post #368

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Thank you. Old school iOS SMS used black text which was much more readable. It’s as if I’m writing with yellow highlighter on white paper. Painful. Worse, it changes the color of (gasp) the iPhone owner’s outgoing messages. So as an android user, you’re messing up MY texts and ruining MY perception of myself. Ugh. Yes, humans are stupid. But it would be nice if Apple let me customize the colors in my app. I did just…

Normal people choose an app that works for everyone. If they can’t be bothered to switch to something, like Telegram, or Whatsapp, or Discord, or Line or Signal, or… is because they value your companionship not worth the bother. So buy an iphone to fit in, or respect yourself a bit more and move on and find a better group to interact with.

I think we started using WhatsApp for our family communication because my wife (the only Android user) _hates_ group messages. She hates them because the SMS experience has been so crappy in a mixed environment, but iOS users (my mom, our exchange students, our nanny) default to it in messages because it’s so easy otherwise .

Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by rattray »

windowshopping wrote: post #540

Dang, I support your efforts but I just don't have any incentive to pay for a texting app. Normal texting and WhatsApp and discord and Instagram and tiktok messages etc etc are all free. So I just don't really have a reason to subscribe to this.

I recently paid >$1000 for the privilege of access to iMessage when switching from Android to iPhone. I'd have been _much_ happier staying on my preferred operating system and paying $24/yr.

(iMessage has, for me, actually been worth it - but still, I frequently find myself wishing that something like Beeper Mini existed so I could go back to android).

Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by sneak »

smashah wrote: post #610
wslh wrote: post #446

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One of my companies lives from this kind of things so it would last if someone could fund it. More food for thought: "Reflecting on 16 Years of Work on Adversarial Interoperability" (now, more than 20...) [1] [1] https://blog.nektra.com/2020/01/12/reflecting-on-16-years-of...

Have you ever received C&D for your work? There's a big problem of OSS projects being TOS-trolled by billion dollar companies and having to shut down out of fear.

What would they demand they cease doing? Publishing software?

If the use of this software is against their rights in some way, the end users running it would be the ones in violation. Publishing original software is protected expression.

Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by tamu_nerd »

jmprspret wrote: post #627
b8 wrote: post #606

The fee and requiring account signup are a dealbreaker. Hopefully someone will create a FLOSS alternative.

AirMessage is open source (and quite old, unsure if its maintained). It requires a Mac computer to run some kind of forwarding software however.

BlueBubbles is the new hotness I believe.

Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by zamadatix »

fragmede wrote: post #636
vbezhenar wrote: post #628

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Reverse-engineering and documenting protocol is OK. Implementing protocol according to the documentation is OK. Copying and modifying binary with proprietary license is not OK.

How do you run the binary if that's not OK? In order to install it, The binary gets copied from the installer (dmg/zip/app store/CD install media), and then to run it, it gets copied from your hard drive to RAM, so that's clearly okay in some circumstances. Furthermore, once it's on my hard drive, I can copy it over and over again in random places on my hard drive for funsies and the operating system will gladly coop…

Those are all fine but it's not the context of the copying in the discussed scenario.

Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by rd07 »

ebb_earl_co wrote: post #353
blopker wrote: post #234

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Does this look like the same file from the deleted repo? https://github.com/rdxunlock/albertsimlockapple/blob/main/AL... I'd love to see an open source version of Beeper with no analytics. I'd be happy to host my own notification server.

Beeper already advertises the self-hosting route: https://github.com/beeper/self-host

I hope they open source their client app or at least makes it possible to connect to other matrix server. For me, their client app is the best matrix client in terms of UI.

Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by collegeburner »

nhumrich wrote: post #596
collegeburner wrote: post #542

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okay but this "interoperability" is legitimately hard without degrading the user experience because apple's unique level of control allows it to produce a superior product with more consistency. airdrop is best-in-class; open-source solutions like wi-fi direct are dumpsterfires with trash UX. LE proximity pairing is, i believe, a custom chip apple put in airpods (h1 chip) because bluetooth is stuck in 2005 and still…

> apple's unique level of control allows it to produce a superior product with more consistency Another way to read this: Apple has a superior product because they perform anti-competitive practices and don't allow other companies to out-product them. And when they do, they buy them/shut them down before anyone is the wiser.

editorialization. you know as well as anyone that restricting your feature development to your own platform rather than doing a retarded design by committee helps one innovate faster.

Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by collegeburner »

goosedragons wrote: post #638
collegeburner wrote: post #542

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okay but this "interoperability" is legitimately hard without degrading the user experience because apple's unique level of control allows it to produce a superior product with more consistency. airdrop is best-in-class; open-source solutions like wi-fi direct are dumpsterfires with trash UX. LE proximity pairing is, i believe, a custom chip apple put in airpods (h1 chip) because bluetooth is stuck in 2005 and still…

Have you used Nearby Share on Android? It's IME just as good Airdrop, the only real issue is that it's not baked into Windows PCs like Airdrop is with Macs (confusingly MS has their own thing called Nearby Share for Windows devices). I've actually had less issues with Nearby Share, my iPhone stopped sharing to my mini after a few months but could talk to everything else. Android solved BT pairing in a superior way ye…

yes, i primarily use an android phone. nearby share is janky and terrible. additionally, the fact that it's not built in everywhere is a ding from the standpoint of an end user.

Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by collegeburner »

zik wrote: post #587
collegeburner wrote: post #542

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okay but this "interoperability" is legitimately hard without degrading the user experience because apple's unique level of control allows it to produce a superior product with more consistency. airdrop is best-in-class; open-source solutions like wi-fi direct are dumpsterfires with trash UX. LE proximity pairing is, i believe, a custom chip apple put in airpods (h1 chip) because bluetooth is stuck in 2005 and still…

> apple's unique level of control allows it to produce a superior product with more consistency Honestly, this reads more like marketing spin to cover anti-competitive behaviour than a forum post.

i am not, nor have i ever been, employed by apple. i use none of their products as my primary devices. stop breaking the forum rules.
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