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Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello

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If the authors have genuinely copied CSS and icons (I haven't checked) then I would expect Trello Inc. to pursue the authors for copyright infringement (justifiably). The point is to be very precise with the criticism. Is the work stolen (protected by copyright law) or is it just a convincing clone?

They have clearly original Trello content checked in the repository.

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Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello

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"Yaşar received an email from Trello, Inc. asking him to rename the Metrello project. Do you have any idea for a new name?" [1]

Apparently it was even called *trello a few weeks ago, so they are definitely aware of that project already. Curious why it wasn't DMCA'ed earlier already.

[1] http://crater.io/posts/8azTCHojZq8CoJpAR

Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello

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It's so sad that such great work can bring so many negative repercussions just because the project creator's decided to blatantly rip off Trello's assets. The project would be under such a different light had they decided style it themselves... I think they're so much better than this.

But are they? They did this, so unless you think they're completely naive (which in itself seems completely naive) you have to see fault here.

Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello

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Even setting aside the legality of this rip, doesn't the ethical aspects of it bother anyone as well? Designing a simple and functional UI is really hard. It takes ages to sift through possible options, discard the fluff, iterate over the details and while the end result is endearingly simple, it ends up fronting a shitload of sweat and tears. And then someone just waltzes in waving their Libre flag and the middle fi…

If you want to see a completely original UI with not a single thing "borrowed" from elsewhere, my 5yr old has some drawings to show you. This specific case takes it too far, there's no doubt about that. But you can be sure that the Trello designer was heavily influenced by those that came before him. UI designers spend half their time looking at UI's designed by others to see what works and what doesn't. In fact, mor…

Of course the cross-pollination is required. But this LibreTrello thing is a blatant rip - the look and feel, the semantics and interaction flows, all the details. Everything, to the dot.

It's still would've been not a big deal if it were just a temporary placeholder design and it got released to the public accidentally. Gotta start somewhere, that's understandable. But they act entitled to what they did. This is what the problem is. They don't recognize or acknowledge all the work that Trello devs did to get things where they are. And they did a lot of it, which is plainly obvious from the fact that there was no other Trello before them.

Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello

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I love the idea of open source tools, but this goes way too far. This isn't just rebuilding a popular concept, this is taking code that was written by a for-profit company and blatantly stealing it. There's an important difference. The earlier versions of this repo still used the Trello logo. Trello's CSS is blatantly used, even using trellicons, the custom icon font created by Trello. The entire front-end is complet…

I'm on the fence on this one - I could argue either way (I could probably work a books worth of material). However, I think it is interesting to note that the idea of "stealing" a design has been done for years. I just don't think many people do it to websites. Examples - there are companies that bundle premade controls that look pretty darn close to the designs in paid software. Here is an example of one: https://ww…

> I just don't think many people do it to websites.

The now dead "pirate sites" had galleries of comparisons between an original site and a rip-off of that site. Some of them were blatant, even hot-linking assets. (A weirdly risky strategy with goatse potential).

Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello

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Great find. If that's as bad as it sounds, that could make an it an illegal derivative work, which would make for an easy DMCA claim.

And now they were just DMCA'ed, rightfully so in my opinion. If you believe in open source, then you need to be respectful of copyright law. It is the foundation for open source licensing.

If you believe in open source, then you need to be respectful of copyright law. It is the foundation for open source licensing.

I don't see how that follows. I support open source, that is, the free distribution of software code. Open source licensing is just a necessary evil to account for the fact that copyright is anti-open-source by default. A few decades back, when the US and other countries required registration to copyright works, open source licensing would have been a ridiculous suggestion (except for copyleft licenses), even though open source itself would still make perfect sense.

Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello

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Was GNU grep implemented by somebody writing the code or running "cp unix/grep.c gnu/grep.c"?

To the best of my knowledge, the people behind this project wrote code. I don't know if it's a Bash script containing your one liner, though... But they seem to have their own code. (I don't think Trello's code is freely available). Bear in mind, I'm not for or against. I'm just putting the thing in perspective and to be compared with what happened throughout History. When I do Ctrl+K, Ctrl+T, Ctrl+W, Ctrl+Tab in Fir…

The people in the project cp -rf'ed the assets from Trello proper including CSS, proprietary fonts, icons, and images.

Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello

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Wow...this looks like a clone of Trello, sorry I cannot support this. I have been using Trello for a long time and I refuse to give credits to someone who blatantly stole the assets, code, etc. and didn't even care to AT LEAST add a different touch to the project. I love open source but this project is off the limit concerning copyrights.

What code did they steal, exactly? They re-implemented all of the functionality, and I'm not sure they took take the JS either. So at this point, it leaves CSS + Look&Feel, and I think they took some icons, though that seems like more of an oversight as it's still a young project from the looks of it. I don't see this as any different to such works as OpenTTD (Transport Tycoon Deluxe) and CorsixTH (Theme Hospital). B…

The CSS is distributed in the Github repo, ostensibly under an open-source license, which the project maintainer has no right to use, distribute, or relicense. It's about as clear a case of copyright infringement as they come.

(And that's not even mentioning that reusing someone else's CSS likely requires you to reuse their markup, too.)

Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello

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To the best of my knowledge, the people behind this project wrote code. I don't know if it's a Bash script containing your one liner, though... But they seem to have their own code. (I don't think Trello's code is freely available). Bear in mind, I'm not for or against. I'm just putting the thing in perspective and to be compared with what happened throughout History. When I do Ctrl+K, Ctrl+T, Ctrl+W, Ctrl+Tab in Fir…

The people in the project cp -rf'ed the assets from Trello proper including CSS, proprietary fonts, icons, and images.

Indeed.

Re: Show HN: LibreBoard – An open-source clone of Trello

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I love the idea of open source tools, but this goes way too far. This isn't just rebuilding a popular concept, this is taking code that was written by a for-profit company and blatantly stealing it. There's an important difference. The earlier versions of this repo still used the Trello logo. Trello's CSS is blatantly used, even using trellicons, the custom icon font created by Trello. The entire front-end is complet…

Looks like they got a DMCA notice: https://github.com/libreboard/libreboard/issues/92#issuecomm...
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