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Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

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Post by mayop100 »

rpadovani wrote: post #59

> We collect information that alone or in combination with other information in our possession could be used to identify you (“Personal Data”) as follows: > Email Data: we collect your email address and the contents of any emails and messages you draft or receive in our Service, as well as associated metadata (such as the time sent). I understand the technical need, but no thanks, I would prefer some local client. Es…

[Founder & CEO here] We will never sell your data, track you, or advertise to you. We only share this information as necessary to provide the service (for example, by storing it on Google Cloud Platform).

Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

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Post by martin-adams »

gab007 wrote: post #23

Not for me, but.. A honest question - now, when G suite legacy free edition is closing down, here's a chance to offer a service that's not "piggy-backing" on gmail (or any other provider). You could "re-create Inbox" by providing email hosting with same/similar features - already lined up on your page.

Wouldn't that be a huge effort though, as you'd have to essentially implement deliverability and spam all from scratch, all while trying to convince gmail users to switch. I tried Hey and found that it just wasn't going to work for me as they wanted to 'own' my email.

Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

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Post by lf-non »

josephwegner wrote: post #12

I'll add in a vote for IMAP support. I am anti-Google in almost all regards. Currently I use FastMail as my email provider, and Mail.app as my client. I pay for FastMail, and similarly I would very gladly pay for a good cross-platform mail client. I'd sign up for a yearly subscription, even! I do recognize that IMAP is not as rich a data source as GMails API, but I'd encourage you to not feel limited by that. I don't…

There is mailspring which I have been using for some time - it has a nice modern interface which imho is much better than thunderbird as well as most of the web interfaces of self hosted email. Based on electron though, so ymmv.

https://getmailspring.com/

Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

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Post by Hard_Space »

For me the killer feature would be to entirely withhold incoming mail from specified email addresses or email domains until weekday working hours. No bolded 'pending' folder, no indication that you're being communicated with by business concerns in your leisure time...I'd pay an extra fee every year just for that one feature.

Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

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Post by shanxS »

mayop100 wrote: post #61
rpadovani wrote: post #59

> We collect information that alone or in combination with other information in our possession could be used to identify you (“Personal Data”) as follows: > Email Data: we collect your email address and the contents of any emails and messages you draft or receive in our Service, as well as associated metadata (such as the time sent). I understand the technical need, but no thanks, I would prefer some local client. Es…

[Founder & CEO here] We will never sell your data, track you, or advertise to you. We only share this information as necessary to provide the service (for example, by storing it on Google Cloud Platform).

Is it possible to store the data, extracted from my data, your service needs in my Google Cloud somewhere or will it expose your secret sauce?

Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

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Post by [deleted] »

rpadovani wrote: post #59

> We collect information that alone or in combination with other information in our possession could be used to identify you (“Personal Data”) as follows: > Email Data: we collect your email address and the contents of any emails and messages you draft or receive in our Service, as well as associated metadata (such as the time sent). I understand the technical need, but no thanks, I would prefer some local client. Es…

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Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

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Post by rabscuttler »

This looks great, congrats - it’s great to see innovation and creativity in the email space.

I’ve just got through my first week with Superhuman, which I’ve found really productive, particularly the keyboard shortcuts. Your marketing copy seemed to make a few references to that product if I’m not mistaken. Aside from the price ($30/m for Superhuman vs $9/m for Shortwave) would you save me the trouble and outline what you see as key differentiators?

It seems like you’re targeting enterprise / teams which looks great for a work account but less useful for a personal one.

Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

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Post by groby_b »

mayop100 wrote: post #41
groby_b wrote: post #39

I'll be blunt: Anything that promises me a "more enjoyable" inbox, and then advertises with cat pictures and what-do-we-do-for-lunch threads is missing the mark for me. I don't want more fluff in my inbox. I especially don't want anything that helps people "email faster". It's not productive, it just makes more noise. E-mail is a medium for half-baked thoughts quickly dashed off to put them on somebody else's plate.…

Keep in mind that the alternative to sending an email is not sending nothing... it's usually to send a text, or a Slack message, or something else that is even less thought through. We try to consolidate all of your communications in one place and give you the tools to write thoughtful things. Don't be confused by the fun examples. Everyone likes cats (those are my actual cats) so we put them in the post, but you cer…

I didn't say it was an easy problem to solve. Any hypothetical fix to the dumpster fire that is my inbox would need to increase both friction of sending in the first place and the value of using the tool anyways.

And so, no, I'm not confused by the fun examples. I'm fairly clear that they're actively detrimental to me. (I may just not be your audience)

Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

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Post by creeble »

martin-adams wrote: post #62
gab007 wrote: post #23

Not for me, but.. A honest question - now, when G suite legacy free edition is closing down, here's a chance to offer a service that's not "piggy-backing" on gmail (or any other provider). You could "re-create Inbox" by providing email hosting with same/similar features - already lined up on your page.

Wouldn't that be a huge effort though, as you'd have to essentially implement deliverability and spam all from scratch, all while trying to convince gmail users to switch. I tried Hey and found that it just wasn't going to work for me as they wanted to 'own' my email.

Interesting, can you expand on why Hey 'owned' your email? I guess no access outside their app?

Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

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Post by jwngr »

Hard_Space wrote: post #64

For me the killer feature would be to entirely withhold incoming mail from specified email addresses or email domains until weekday working hours. No bolded 'pending' folder, no indication that you're being communicated with by business concerns in your leisure time...I'd pay an extra fee every year just for that one feature.

Agreed! This is definitely on our list and we've got big plans here. Added your +1 to our internal task tracking this feature :)
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