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Re: Show HN: Founders launching startups on Twitch

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Post by PakG1 »

shafyy wrote: post #57
scarejunba wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite some irony in the fact that while some people are trying to build products quickly, Hacker News (run by startup incubator YCombinator) has a 20-comment thread debating what 'startup' means.

By that logic, you can say people that build startups should never do something else in their 24h day.

Don't be silly. I've never seen anyone advocating for a 24 hour day. At the very most, I've seen 18 hour days. Let's be realistic. https://www.quora.com/How-did-CEO-Marissa-Mayer-pull-all-nig...

Want to be sarcastic here, but feel like people would look down on me.

Re: Show HN: Founders launching startups on Twitch

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Post by bobjordan »

TekMol wrote: post #22
shafyy wrote: post #8

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Cool. However, stop calling it startups. They're launching apps/products, not startups.

We should take back the word 'startup' from people who want to make us think it is reserved for something that involves a business plan and raising money. If someone starts something, I call it startup.

In trying to “take back the word startup” and redefine it to fit your own preferred meaning. I expect you will find, most on HN will take a more conservative position in it’s definition.

Re: Show HN: Founders launching startups on Twitch

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Post by Alterlife »

sonnyblarney wrote: post #40

"Hey, I worked on a project for a few hours, give me funding" Please folks - we need new terminology. This initiative is all fine and good, but maybe we need new words, because these are not startups. This seems more to fit the term 'Hackathon' than anything. 'Microstartup'? 'Microproject' ? 'Microfab' ? 'Micro-op' ? Ok maybe not so great ... Something that communicates that it is authentic and innovative, but at the…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Startup_Financing_Cycle.p....

If you look at the above graph on startup financing cycle, it starts before there is any investment -- with cofounders and an idea.

The terminology and process beyond that point comes from MBAs and money men. A VC will probably invest in any company that will satisfy whatever objective they have for investing. This is a 24 hour project sprint by a founder. If it gets the right eyeballs, the idea is well on its way to becoming a startup.

The hashtag #24hourstartup is good branding that conveys that.

Re: Show HN: Founders launching startups on Twitch

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Post by rorykoehler »

newman8r wrote: post #19
richrichardsson wrote: post #9

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What is a startup anyway? The term is stupid and overused imo.

A lot of people on HN would probably go with the Paul Graham definition: "A startup is a company designed to grow fast" http://www.paulgraham.com/growth.html

That's what PG wants a startup to be because it's self serving. He isn't going to get rich off of people bootstrapping lifestyle startups.

Re: Show HN: Founders launching startups on Twitch

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Post by tmh88j »

KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #47

Can someone explain what kind of exposure livestreaming like this brings? Is it actually beneficial, what are some success stories (eg something interesting happening due to the stream)?

>Can someone explain what kind of exposure livestreaming like this brings?

I don't think the goal is exposure for anything that's created, it's more of a live streaming hackathon. If creating a web app is a startup then I've founded more startups than I can even keep track of. The title is somewhat of a misnomer. Check out this comment from one of the team members who organized it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18476639

Re: Show HN: Founders launching startups on Twitch

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Post by shafyy »

PakG1 wrote: post #61
shafyy wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By that logic, you can say people that build startups should never do something else in their 24h day.

Don't be silly. I've never seen anyone advocating for a 24 hour day. At the very most, I've seen 18 hour days. Let's be realistic. https://www.quora.com/How-did-CEO-Marissa-Mayer-pull-all-nig... Want to be sarcastic here, but feel like people would look down on me.

That's not what I'm advocating. Just arguing against the parent who said some equivalent of "while others are building products, you wannabe entrepreneurs are all talks here on HN".

Re: Show HN: Founders launching startups on Twitch

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Post by bemmu »

KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #47

Can someone explain what kind of exposure livestreaming like this brings? Is it actually beneficial, what are some success stories (eg something interesting happening due to the stream)?

It motivates you to make quick progress, as you have a clear deadline and potentially people looking over your shoulder.

Re: Show HN: Founders launching startups on Twitch

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Post by rorykoehler »

QML wrote: post #33

Oh no, this is setting a bad precedent. If founders can launch a startup within 24 hours, then sometime soon a sadistic tech company will replace their coding challenges with making a startup. \s

That would be great.

1: Apply for job

2: Get assigned 24 hour startup project

3: Create startup

4: Get funding...

Re: Show HN: Founders launching startups on Twitch

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Post by jessems »

PopeDotNinja wrote: post #48
sonnyblarney wrote: post #46

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I'm not sure I agree. What you're describing is 'business'. A startup is a company that's focused on something innovative and effectively high growth - something a VC could invest in. Nobody is referring to the new Taco restaurant down the street as a 'startup' even though their revenues will be more than $1 M this year. VC only makes sense in high growth businesses with large markets. Otherwise they are just busines…

I've never seen a definition of a startup that I like. Here's my personal sniff test... To me, a business is an entity with paying customers. To me, a startup is an entity that wants paying customers before it has them, or has them now but once did not (and it remains a startup until people stop calling it that).

I recently wrote about this discussion here: https://www.indiehackers.com/@jessems/its-not-a-startup-the-...

The term startup is ambiguous and the fact that Steve Blank, Eris Reiss and Paul Graham have their own definitions says something.

It's hard to not call Pieter Levels' Nomadlist a startup.

Re: Show HN: Founders launching startups on Twitch

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Post by c3534l »

sonnyblarney wrote: post #40

"Hey, I worked on a project for a few hours, give me funding" Please folks - we need new terminology. This initiative is all fine and good, but maybe we need new words, because these are not startups. This seems more to fit the term 'Hackathon' than anything. 'Microstartup'? 'Microproject' ? 'Microfab' ? 'Micro-op' ? Ok maybe not so great ... Something that communicates that it is authentic and innovative, but at the…

I don't think the problem is that we don't have enough buzzwords, but that the ones we already have are largely meaningless and pointless.
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