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Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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JoshTriplett wrote: post #43
pinum wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not everyone treats "open source" as a political term. The OSI doesn't have any special right to define it. Many just use it as a catchier alternative to "source available".

(off topic) People can certainly use a term in a way contrary to the expectations and definitions used by the vast majority of other people, and then they shouldn't act surprised if they're either misunderstood, called incorrect, or perhaps most importantly, called out as being intentionally obtuse and confusing and asked to stop that . Language is descriptive rather than prescriptive, but descriptive language can st…

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Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by tjoff »

yboris wrote: post #56
Brajeshwar wrote: post #32

I know this may not be important 'yet' to your app but please change the name to "Video Hub" without the "App".

:) reminds me of the movie "The Social Network" when Zuckerberg was told "Drop the 'the' from 'The Facebook'" :P I'm afraid without the word "app" it would sound as generic as "rename files" ... also I needed an available domain name. Coincidentally https://videohub.app/ was also free :)

First impression: The use of mac images and screenshots and including "App" in made me absolutely positive this was a mac only thing. Only by chance that I stayed long enough to realize it was multi-platform.

That was also the same time I realized, oh this is probably electron. Should state that somewhere as well.

Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by kennyadam »

yboris wrote: post #59
therobotking wrote: post #57

I like it. Nabbed a copy for $5 - feel like you should charge more than $3.50!

Thank you for paying more! Charging more is a balance between larger sales volume (importantly -- more people using the app), and possibly higher revenue (in my case donations to my favorite charity). I'm leaning towards having a lot more people enjoy my work (though I'm still unwilling to go "pay what you want" with no minimum at this time).

I agree that giving people the option to pay $0 will probably result in less sales. I've been thinking about it over lunch and I'm liking the $3.50 price more and more. It was certainly low enough that I didn't have to give the purchase much thought and also low enough that I felt you deserved a bit more - and was happy to pay it.

No doubt you can see the stats and know what's gonna work better than some random on HN :)

One thing: I found the contrast of the video name text and the bg a bit tough when using the light theme. IF it's possible, custom bg colour or something would be great. Anyway :) thanks for a cool app

edit: ha was logged in to my old acccount when i first posted, a downside of password managers if you're not paying attention!

Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by yboris »

kennyadam wrote: post #63
yboris wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for paying more! Charging more is a balance between larger sales volume (importantly -- more people using the app), and possibly higher revenue (in my case donations to my favorite charity). I'm leaning towards having a lot more people enjoy my work (though I'm still unwilling to go "pay what you want" with no minimum at this time).

I agree that giving people the option to pay $0 will probably result in less sales. I've been thinking about it over lunch and I'm liking the $3.50 price more and more. It was certainly low enough that I didn't have to give the purchase much thought and also low enough that I felt you deserved a bit more - and was happy to pay it. No doubt you can see the stats and know what's gonna work better than some random on HN…

Thanks for the comment on the contrast. I should have paid more attention to WCAG when picking the color scheme. I'll keep your comment in mind next time I tinker with the UI :)

Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by yboris »

bstchn wrote: post #60

Very nice. I was recently look for something similar, but with support for markers (eg. add marker "explosion" to video XY at 2:14). Do you plan to implement such feature?

I didn't expect to put in markers ... though if adding tags is to become a feature, perhaps tags that correspond to time might be easy-enough.

The trickiest part would be the UI -- making it usable and elegant.

Perhaps those markings would visually fit nicely inside the filmstrip view.

Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by yboris »

tjoff wrote: post #62
yboris wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

:) reminds me of the movie "The Social Network" when Zuckerberg was told "Drop the 'the' from 'The Facebook'" :P I'm afraid without the word "app" it would sound as generic as "rename files" ... also I needed an available domain name. Coincidentally https://videohub.app/ was also free :)

First impression: The use of mac images and screenshots and including "App" in made me absolutely positive this was a mac only thing. Only by chance that I stayed long enough to realize it was multi-platform. That was also the same time I realized, oh this is probably electron. Should state that somewhere as well.

Thanks for the feedback! I think I'll make the multi-platform messaging more-prominent (perhaps text right on top of the first screen).

Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by gpm »

chii wrote: post #53
gpm wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's patently not true. One does not have "posession" by merely having access to the binary or source. One must first agree (implicitly, or explicitly) before they can acquire the software, such as agreeing to the licence when downloading. Sorry, but you're the mistaken one here. You need a license to make copies of, derivative works, etc. If the copyright holder makes a copy and sends it to me I do not need any…

> If the copyright holder makes a copy and sends it to me I do not need any license to hold onto it or execute it. Only for the purposes of execution can this copy be retained (as it's impossible to not make a copy while in memory). However, I cannot keep the executable in memory, and use it for any other purpose (including letting someone else also execute it) unless authorised by the copyright holder. In AGPL, the…

Oh, hold on.

The AGPL probably works for client side js/css. But that's not really a surprise since the GPL probably works for client side js/css. What I am not sure it works for is strictly server side code.

The FSF has argued that the AGPL/GPL is not a contract. Other lawyers have argued it is a contract. I take no position on that argument, which is a good part of why I simply say "may" be found unenforceable.

Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by otterpro »

yboris wrote: post #2

I created this software using Angular, Electron, FFmpeg, and angular2-virtual-scroll. All proceeds go to Against Malaria Foundation (GiveWell's top-rated charity). Currently not open source, but am trying to figure out how to set a license that encourages people to tinker with the code, but not to clone a copy and sell it.

I'd go with GPL as many comments mentioned here. If you are slightly paranoid about someone stealing the code and making a commercialized version (which happens a lot with VLC), then I suggest you separate some of the functionalities into modules, in which parts are GPL'ed, and others are made private. Perhaps the UI and basic functionalities (aka lite version) could be made OSS, but some more advanced features are not included in the source, such as filter or scrub view. It would make it virtually impossible to make a clone, but you also get the benefit of people contributing and learning from the code from the OSS version.

Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by hateful »

mintplant wrote: post #20

Cool! Peanut gallery suggestions: - The default black-on-dark-grey in the primary pane looks amateurish. Switching out the background color for something lighter (maybe a light beige?) would make a world of difference for first impressions. - I'd appreciate if the screenshots adapted to my platform, so I could see what the app actually looks like on Windows. But I understand that it'd consume a lot of effort to re-ta…

I would say to also include a dark theme. I'd prefer to customize the colors manually, but if that's not possible, at least have a light/medium/dark theme choice.

The main reason, at least for me, is that on the TV, lighter themes are very bright.

Re: Show HN: Video Hub App – like YouTube for videos on your computer

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Post by yboris »

otterpro wrote: post #68
yboris wrote: post #2

I created this software using Angular, Electron, FFmpeg, and angular2-virtual-scroll. All proceeds go to Against Malaria Foundation (GiveWell's top-rated charity). Currently not open source, but am trying to figure out how to set a license that encourages people to tinker with the code, but not to clone a copy and sell it.

I'd go with GPL as many comments mentioned here. If you are slightly paranoid about someone stealing the code and making a commercialized version (which happens a lot with VLC), then I suggest you separate some of the functionalities into modules, in which parts are GPL'ed, and others are made private. Perhaps the UI and basic functionalities (aka lite version) could be made OSS, but some more advanced features are n…

Thank you for the advice.

In my case it feels like it would take quite a bit of effort to pull out features from the software and make a stripped-down version available.

My primary reason for wanting to share the code is that perhaps it will be a useful place for others to learn some things (though I don't think my code is stellar / exemplary and I know it has some serious shortcomings).

I guess it isn't a big problem if someone releases a clone of my app for free as long as I somehow can require (request) they always link back to the original on their website and in the app itself. But I'm not eager to chase people around and pester them if they don't comply.

I'm thinking I might wait for a full year since release (until February 2019) and just put out the whole code on GitHub with a 'free to do anything' license and a personal request that people always include a link to the original in the compiled app and on/through whatever websites they share it on.

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