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Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

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post #369

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Happens for me too, Firefox on iOS. Edit: it badgers me to install it in Chrome even in mobile Safari. Edit 2: seems there is a search box on top of the page. It works but I didn't notice it initially because - the page was so intensely focused on getting me to install a Chrome extension (both in Firefox on iOS and Safari on iOS) - and the placeholder text ("you.com")looked like a decoration initially (try something…

Looks like the issue is that the submitted link is a search for “you.com”, which appears to be a special search result that includes prominent promotion of the Chrome extension, regardless of which browser you’re using. It would probably have been a better idea to submit a link to the landing page or a normal search result.

Aha, that explains a lot!

Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

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post #359

For goodness' sake, there's a middle ground for making your product sticky that doesn't need people to commit to stop using Google Search without trying your product once! Let me repeat that - you're asking me to give up Google Search, one of the seven wonders of the online world! Yes, I know, you can still go to google.com. But based on your messaging you clearly understand that a search engine that isn't in the sea…

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Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

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Great question: We are first ranking apps and then within apps we have some of our own ranking but e.g. web results come from Bing. We have found that when non-web-result-apps trigger in the top 2, we are often as good or better than Google. Web results by themselves are a mixed bag, which is why we built out lots of custom apps for developers, e.g. StackOverflow (with code snippets), W3Schools, MDN, Copilot-like Cod…

Whenever the subject of personalising search results comes up in technical communities, the most common thing I hear are people saying they wish they could remove W3Schools from their search results automatically. Specifically that particular site. It’s got a terrible reputation. People have even built browser extensions to do it: https://www.google.com/search?q=remove+w3schools+from+search... In that context, it see…

Or just let a user remove a domain from results.

Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

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post #28

If your search engine requires an extension to work and display the results, it's a total non-starter. Cannot suggest this to any non-HN crowd. Good luck.

I'm confused by this, In firefox it worked out of the box, no default needed.

Personally I like it! Going to try it for a bit.

Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

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Respectfully: because nobody knows who the fuck you are, and your reasoning doesn't make sense. You want to offer a privacy focused search service, but the users need to install an extension because otherwise instead of just having a regular web frontend for the masses to try. Then it's too hard for lusers to switch; you created this problem for yourself. The more you respond, the more it looks like this is some poor…

I get it. There are tons of sketchy extensions. We'll open source our extension so you can see the entire 33kB that's needed to make one settings change. Also, you can try it out in incognito mode or change those settings manually and hence give it a try :) But most people need the simplicity and convenience of a few clicks in order to give it a proper try.

We don’t trust you not to modify the extension in an update. And no, publishing hypothetical source does not address that.

Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

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Hi Richard,

Please feel free to respond to as many questions as you have time for.

1. I'm a huge fan of your ML work while you were at Stanford. If I may steal a minute or two from you, I'd like to ask, why do you think recursive neural networks have lost out to other architectures (basically transformers) when it comes to NLP, where intuition would suggest the composionality of language would favor recursive NNs? Do you think recursive NNs will make a come-back sometime?

2. Also, you say on HN that you.com is "the world's first open search engine platform that summarizes the web for you". Do you mean this in the sense of summarization in the NLP sense, or some other interpretation? I did a couple of searches on you.com, and I didn't notice anything that "summarized" (in the NLP sense).

3. From the business side, what's to stop Google from straight up copying your features if you gain traction? They can certainly afford to pay for talent, and are not known to be sloths when it comes to new tech.

Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

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You are right to be skeptical of extensions. There are a lot of sketchy ones out there but... Nope. We aren't doing that and not planning to. All the extension does is change one setting. If you set your search engine default to http://you.com manually in Chrome with " https://you.com/search?q=%s " you will not need the extension... but for most people convenience wins and well... It's tough to go up against a monopo…

> We aren't doing that and not planning to. Yes. Yes you are. You've spent unspecified amounts of money (likely millions if not tens of millions) on acquiring the you.com domain. Investors will be very interested to get that money back.

Just so you know, they got the domain name from an investor/friend.

Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

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post #394

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Right. Have you tried the private mode (top right dropdown)? Like DDG we proxy everything in that mode. It's a bit slower so we haven't done it in default mode yet.

It is getting absurd. Having "private" in your marketing front and center and at the same time defaulting to sending your users data out to all kind of companies. I would not have said anything if you did not post with "private" and "build for devs" in the title. I have no opinion on your project. I only know it is not private and not build for devs. This is just marketing speak and I don't like to see that on my fav…

Goddamn, thank you for pointing that out. I knew I was right to not trust him regarding privacy [1], I just didn't expect to see something like this backing that up so quickly lol.

[1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29170624

Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

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If you open it up in Chrome, then first off the main search bar in the middle of the screen turns into a button to install the extension. There remains a search bar in the upper left hand corner of the screen, but if you actually search, no search results are given. Instead the result page is replaced by a link to install the Chrome extension. So effectively, as far as I can tell, on a normal Chrome browsing session…

And now it also doesn't happen in Chrome anymore. We dropped the requirement there too.

I'm glad to hear it! Time to take it for another spin.

Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs

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post #360

I haven’t seen a more tone-deaf, smug, and patronizing CEO for a long while. User-hostile UX, a baffling inability to process feedback and seemingly no interest in potential customers. You should really think things through.

Can’t edit anymore. Just wanted to say sorry if that came off too negative. I really want to like a potential Google competitor.

UX things that I wish were improved:

- scrolling vertically and horizontally to find results is quite confusing and a lot of effort

- low DPI icons make the page look unpolished

- too many “things”, the results page doesn’t fit on an iPhone 12 mini’s screen without horizontal scrolling

- fonts change style after they appear making it look jittery and unpolished

- upvoting/liking seems like a good idea; would reconsider value downvote brings. It seems to convey results are user controlled and prone to vote wars

The results are pretty good, but the UX is poor. Wishing you and the team the best.

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