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Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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post #263

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"This information is very important." Years != Experience ...but thanks for confirming the shallowness of the recruiting processes we've all experienced.

that has nothing to do with shallowness, if someone has spent a few months at X previous jobs before you, this is definitely something to be addressed in the interview. Had an acquaintance recently that hired a guy that didn't pass the probation period at 2 out of 3 jobs he had. My acquaintance didn't address this at all and hired him anyway. In a few short he managed to transform in the whole office to a hard to bel…

This smacks of the anecdotes anyone will have about someone they know (or a an acquaintance thereof) who's abusing social welfare. In reality, in most European countries, welfare abuse it at most 2% of all social welfare users and usually at 1%. The data just doesn't support large-scale welfare abuse. Is it shallow when people still assume there are huge amounts of moochers?

Now are there reasons why you might ask someone how long they stayed at their previous job? Yes, definitely. Does that make everyone suspect automatically? Hell no.

I don't have more data on the subject, so I won't draw any definite conclusions as to whether it is warranted to base someone's professional worth on the number of years/months served. My own experience shows only a very weak correlation there, and no correlation at all between seniority within a company and said company's attempts at retaining that employee.

I've seen people who had "ten years' experience" who in reality had done the same year, ten times. I've seen people who had three years' experience but were driven, looked into things on their own initiative and who outclasses those "seniors". It all seems to depend on what you're exposed to and, lacking exposure, what you'll subject yourself to of your own accord.

Have you read any studies on the subject?

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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We should do away with names on applications as well. Names can tell me about the gender and often the ethnicity of the applicant, which are both also ripe for discriminating against. With an online application, we can just replace the applicant's name with an ID number and associate the two in some database that the employer doesn't see until the applicant is hired. Actually, now with remote work, even after the app…

I couldn’t initially tell if your second paragraph was meant sarcastically or not. I also want to do away with discrimination. But people’s faces and voices express emotion, character, and warmth Your utopia sounds absolutely horrible. I met my wife at work, she is a different ethnicity and culture than me.

Nobody is sarcarstic on the internet, ever.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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post #143

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LinkedIn is unusable without faces. It's often the only way to know that you found the person you were searching for. Perhaps this site doesn't need that functionality though.

If you look at it as a tool for recruiters, you won't be searching for specific people. You'll be searching for attributes/skills you're looking for, and then get a list. If you're an individual applying for a job, you'd link to your profile, so the recruiter who receives your application won't need to search. If you're connecting with someone you know personally, then you should already have enough information at ha…

>If you're connecting with someone you know personally, then you should already have enough information at hand in order to know you have the right person based on their listed work experience.

But the point isn't to connect to those people. They're a phone call/e-mail away. It's to connect with and maintain the connection to the randos that you briefly meet.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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You can’t really stop people from finding your face online if it’s on social media, but you can present the information so that you’d first read the text and then see a photo. Move the photo on the profile to the bottom of it, and make it optional.

> With real names, faces are just one google search away for most people > You can’t really stop people from finding your face online if it’s on social media Hey, some of us worked pretty hard for this to not be true, so at the very least the photo should be optional. I’m blessed with a common first and last name and outside of my HN username I am pretty un-Googlable. Someone very motivated could probably find an old…

Others aren't exactly common, but I spent a good bit of time a while back removing my own information from the public internet. It's not easy removing yourself from all the Spokeo clones, but most of them have some way to do so, or at least remove the information from the public.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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Not a linkedin fan and I like the idea of focusing on what people use / want and not on what they don't. That said, I suspect you underestimate the importance of pictures in terms of memory building and many other networking steps.

yet unless you were an actor resumes didn't have pictures attached for well forever.

I actually always made the name part big if I could - not to remember it but for the visual sort of like a face.

Note: I've also seen that for minority / female hiring, a face can really jump your resume up as it makes clear you may help add some diversity to a team.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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Definitely beautiful and would love for something simple and clean to eat LinkedIn's lunch. I don't have much to add in addition to everyone else except this: I am really disturbed by the common meme of faces-inside-circles. Why do we need faces? It just distracts from the content. I love the idea of being able to link former colleagues together - that's neat - but I'm very anti-face and there are any number of ways…

I just put an avatar that's not my face.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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yet unless you were an actor resumes didn't have pictures attached for well forever.

But you handed them in, in person, and had an in person interview. If anything, a picture is a loss of historically available visual data on a hire.

You would mail in your CV, and the HM wouldn't be the one receiving them if you did hand them in.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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post #172

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Around ten direct replies to your post and I still don't feel like the reason why pictures on CVs is a bad idea has been explained explicitly. I'm in the UK, where race, age, gender, religion, disability are among protected characteristics. As such, that information, should it be included, is often either stripped from the CV automatically or the CV discarded entirely to obviate the risk of being accused of discrimin…

You realise that someones race, age, gender, disability etc are all easily inferred as soon as you meet someone in person? It doesn't matter what you do here, if someone wants to reject someone based on gender, race, etc, they can do so easily and just say they weren't good enough. This is the ultimate elephant in room with hiring and it's always been there and always will be unless we somehow do hiring while never t…

But this is not about eradicating all opportunities for bias, it is about reducing them. Making e.g. the filtering of resumes blind to race and gender would likely improve the situation, even if e.g. the interview still provides opportunity for biases to creep in.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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post #179

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I mean no one's made an argument why it shouldn't be _optional_ if it already isn't either, as well as people are confusing the context of HR/Hiring Manager's shifting through resumes and traversing their own social graph on LinkedIn whether by search or connections list. This site could even, when it gets up to supporting some social graph, separate the two views, HR is using bookmarks/folder organization/some other…

> I mean no one's made an argument why it shouldn't be _optional_ if it already isn't either, I'll give you an argument against optional headshots: Adverse selection. Given the advantages and disadvantage of having a headshot, most of the folks omitting them will have good reason to do so. Which means that those who don't have a headshot will be disadvantaged further. IOW, not having a headshot signals one of three t…

> There is no actual upside

...unless the "I would experience prejudice" reason is correct.

Re: Show HN: I made an alternative platform for professional profiles

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post #309

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> Force people My god. Even on LinkedIn it is optional. I was out of work for a year and a half for personal reasons, and I conceal that fact from clueless tech recruiters by having my previous place "2013-2016" and my next as "2017-now". As soon as service "forces people" to fill their form as "tech recruiters" designed, they can just go south.

If I were a recruiter, I would find the fact that you were trying to hide a year and a half much more sketchy than just seeing that you were "out of work" for that period...

Recruiters don't seem to get to the conclusion that I'm "trying to hide a year and a half" because fwiw it can be a month, or just a change of jobs on Jan 01.

Some recruiters look for red flags in order to dismiss a CV. Year out of work could be such a flag. My job is to hide that red flag. Once being interviewed, I will provide the details if asked.

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