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Re: Show HN: I speak 5 languages. Common apps taught me none. So I built lairner

#31
I like the keyboard shortcuts, but I'm struggling to see the differentiator between this and duolingo. The Dutch lesson that I did seemed to be pretty identical to dutch lesson in duolingo.

It doesn't seem to have any theme for each lessons either, which is my major bugbear about the new duolingo. (its really obvious in the more well loved languages like spanish)

Re: Show HN: I speak 5 languages. Common apps taught me none. So I built lairner

#33
post #25

Any chance you’ll add Maltese?

Għadni kemm bdejt nitgħallem il-Malti! I'm using my own app, and I don't want to link it here given it's someone else's launch post, but you can find many links in my profile. But if you're a self-directed type of learner, I've been making sure it works well with Maltese :)

Dak hu tajjeb ħafna! Se nagħti ħarsa. Jien ukoll għadni kif bdejt u eċċitat ħafna.

Re: Show HN: I speak 5 languages. Common apps taught me none. So I built lairner

#34
I don't even need to open the project to know this is vibe coded garbage. This is in no way a personal attack, but the writing style is 100% AI fueled. There's no personality and frankly its too generic to be considered truthful.

The problem is there, but a tool is just not the solution. The solution is to actually put in the elbow grease and learn what you need/want to learn.

Apps need to be dopamine fueled to work, and no one has fixed this problem yet.

Re: Show HN: I speak 5 languages. Common apps taught me none. So I built lairner

#35

70 languages from one guy? Was this vibe-coded?

Almost certainly, but that’s no reason to immediately discount it.

It absolutely is. I don't understand how people are so delusional to think that their AI slop has any value.

If I were fine with AI, I could just prompt the LLM myself to create a course perfectly catered to me. Why would I need you? Because your prompting skills are magic? Yeah, no. That is like charging for google search results because you searching skills are so great.

The whole problem with Duolingo is that it got so much worse once they started using AI. Switching to another AI driven project would be out of the frying pan into the fire.

Re: Show HN: I speak 5 languages. Common apps taught me none. So I built lairner

#36

A bit off-topic, but it's interesting how the first thing I check now is whether this is a vibe coded app (which it seems to be) or something that had serious effort put into it.

Define "effort". I mean, "effort" to me in this context is what the creator of $project thinks it is worth their time. Don't you agree? If you want to learn a new computer language yourself, vibecoding will probably not help you. If you want to create something to scratch your itch, and spend time and mental effort in getting it polished, isn't that effort? It is not automatic, even with vibecoding, getting out a goo…

You're offering a product, not a vibe project, so I disagree.

If vibe coding would lower cost while maintaining quality then this would be a fair argument, but the reality is that its a lazy way and frankly it's not programming.

Re: Show HN: I speak 5 languages. Common apps taught me none. So I built lairner

#37
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> It is surprising how many waste time on Duolingo. It's not a waste of time if one enjoys it. Not everyone has the same goals, and Duolingo proves that a great many people enjoy their model.

actually something can be a waste of time if one enjoys it, see: heroin, or any other addictive substances

Re: Show HN: I speak 5 languages. Common apps taught me none. So I built lairner

#38
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm less worried about the "vibe coded" than "vibe-language-learning" Though I do think there is vast potential for such things, it needs to be approached judiciously.

From trying it out, it's definitely vibe created because both the pronunciation and wording it provides in a language I know are wrong. Duolingo (at least for the same language) has correct pronunciation and grammar/words, even if it's not a good way to learn.

It's vibe coded because every button looks different.

Re: Show HN: I speak 5 languages. Common apps taught me none. So I built lairner

#39

A bit off-topic, but it's interesting how the first thing I check now is whether this is a vibe coded app (which it seems to be) or something that had serious effort put into it.

Define "effort". I mean, "effort" to me in this context is what the creator of $project thinks it is worth their time. Don't you agree? If you want to learn a new computer language yourself, vibecoding will probably not help you. If you want to create something to scratch your itch, and spend time and mental effort in getting it polished, isn't that effort? It is not automatic, even with vibecoding, getting out a goo…

> It is not automatic, even with vibecoding, getting out a good app/site that solves a need in an elegant, functional manner for the user.

This feels like a vibecoded comment.

To address the "substance" of your "comment": yes, creating a polished product requires effort, but this is not a polished product: as pointed out by numerous commenters, it provides nothing new, and what it does provide is broken. Thus the GP's comment that it is vibecoded slop and not worth taking seriously.

Re: Show HN: I speak 5 languages. Common apps taught me none. So I built lairner

#40

> I learned Turkish with lairner itself Honest question, how? If this is a side project so you're presumably the person making the courses, and you didn't speak Turkish before, how did you make a course that taught yourself Turkish? > We work together with some institutes of endangered languages to be able to teach them on our platform. I assume this is how? Are you a platform for these institutions to provide Duolin…

Not OP, but I also coincidentally built a language learning app to learn Turkish. I don't think you can create courses without experience in the language, but it is possible to build analytical tools to make language learning possible. Tech + linguistics can take you pretty far.

This isn't to hijack the thread, but wanted to comment because honestly one of the coolest feelings in my life has been learning a language I don't know from an app I built.

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