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Re: Show HN: Vuido builds desktop apps using Vue.js without Electron

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post #14

One question: why would you use the awful clusterfuck that is JavaScript on the desktop where you’ve got the freedom to choose from dozens of lovely languages that actually are a pleasure to use? JS is a necessary evil on the web, but why inflict such pain to yourself when you’re able to use something else?

Stockholm syndrome?

Re: Show HN: Vuido builds desktop apps using Vue.js without Electron

#32
post #23

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Incredibly pragmatic, which is perhaps the most important thing possible. an approach that assesses the truth of meaning of theories or beliefs in terms of the success of their practical application You can have your ideal language, we'll just keep building great stuff in a good enough language.

> Great stuff Like what? A chat client that uses 1+ GB of RAM and melts batteries faster than a flamethrower? No thanks! It almost looks like this Electron/JS trend was started by CPU manufacturers who realised that current CPUs have more than enough power for everyday tasks, and needed a way to create demand for even faster CPUs. I’d say Electron (and JS in general) was pretty effective at that.

That's what Vuido is for, now there's no Electron.

Re: Show HN: Vuido builds desktop apps using Vue.js without Electron

#33

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Why do you speak English when you could be speaking French? Because it's what you know, and lucky for you it's everywhere and you don't need to learn French. I'm making some assumptions about you as a person but you take my point I hope. People use JavaScript over other languages because they already know it and, hey, look, you can use it anywhere. Sure, it might be more efficient to go and learn python or C++ or ass…

Exactly. People mock me for using Python and MongoDB at hackathons but I have won my first Hackathon cause I spent my time getting code done and not thinking too hard about it.

Exactly. What did you win with out of interest?

Re: Show HN: Vuido builds desktop apps using Vue.js without Electron

#34

Interesting, this reminds me of Proton Native. Both are based on libui. Proton discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16978901 libui: https://github.com/andlabs/libui

I'm thinking you didn't read the post because the first two sentences are about this being based on Proton Native

Inspired by, not based on, I think.

FTA: "Just like Proton Native, Vuido is based on libui, which is currently an alpha version, but I think that it looks very promising."

Re: Show HN: Vuido builds desktop apps using Vue.js without Electron

#35
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incredibly pragmatic, which is perhaps the most important thing possible. an approach that assesses the truth of meaning of theories or beliefs in terms of the success of their practical application You can have your ideal language, we'll just keep building great stuff in a good enough language.

> Great stuff Like what? A chat client that uses 1+ GB of RAM and melts batteries faster than a flamethrower? No thanks! It almost looks like this Electron/JS trend was started by CPU manufacturers who realised that current CPUs have more than enough power for everyday tasks, and needed a way to create demand for even faster CPUs. I’d say Electron (and JS in general) was pretty effective at that.

> manufacturers who realised that current CPUs have more than enough power for everyday tasks, and needed a way to create demand for even faster CPUs

Lol.

It's a common trend across software. Try comparing office 2003 to office 2013. Office 2003 starts instantly on a modern desktop and uses minimal RAM. Office 2013 takes a good four or five seconds to fire up and uses a few hundred mb memory. And they both do exactly the same thing. With cpu speeds and ssd proliferation there's no incentive to keep things low footprint any more.

Re: Show HN: Vuido builds desktop apps using Vue.js without Electron

#37
post #9

Nice. For those who don't care about native UI : has anyone tried to ship a react-like library used in the OS native browser ? That way you avoid Electron bloat, you just need to take care of the design for different native browsers.

There's this

https://github.com/zserge/webview

Basically a webview which can use a c++ backend and a js/html front-end, cross platform

Re: Show HN: Vuido builds desktop apps using Vue.js without Electron

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm thinking you didn't read the post because the first two sentences are about this being based on Proton Native

Inspired by, not based on, I think. FTA: "Just like Proton Native, Vuido is based on libui, which is currently an alpha version, but I think that it looks very promising."

That's not the point.

Re: Show HN: Vuido builds desktop apps using Vue.js without Electron

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you speak English when you could be speaking French? Because it's what you know, and lucky for you it's everywhere and you don't need to learn French. I'm making some assumptions about you as a person but you take my point I hope. People use JavaScript over other languages because they already know it and, hey, look, you can use it anywhere. Sure, it might be more efficient to go and learn python or C++ or ass…

Exactly. People mock me for using Python and MongoDB at hackathons but I have won my first Hackathon cause I spent my time getting code done and not thinking too hard about it.

Attendance to hackathons deserves mocking in its own... :)
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