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Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by nddrylliog »

runn1ng wrote: post #216
nddrylliog wrote: post #208

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Power users are not well served with this version of movies.io Results are usually "pretty good", but that's nowhere satisfying for a connoisseur such as yourself. We're working on that though, but we'd much rather have people talking about the movie than about the torrent. A movie is art, it's emotions, stories, parts of our childhood. Much more interesting than a bitrate, a codec, a PSNR level.

That last part is true - and it's evident from your application that you give more weight to the movie than to the technical details. And it's good, in a way. But in my opinion, even to a less powered user, it's still important to know if he is going to watch a DVD-rip or a russian-dubbed camrip.

More importantly, it matters that the first result is a the cleanest rip possible in english.

We'll add a dropdown for alternative languages etc., and subtitles, but we got to breathe a little first. Lotsa things in the issue tracker.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by ma2rten »

nddrylliog wrote: post #194
staunch wrote: post #188

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The problem is that you might not get to walk away scot-free from this even when you want to. One thing I can gaurantee will help you: make no attempt whatsoever to profit from this. Don't put up any ads. Don't have any affiliate links. Profiting from a (potential) crime or infringement makes it 100x more dangerous.

Indeed, I guess I'll postpone that flight to NY. No intentions to profit from this, except for the experience, the friends (and enemies) we make, and the excitement.

I am surprised you are taking this so lightly. Are you sure this can not get you into trouble in France / the EU?

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by pooriaazimi »

edw519 wrote: post #79

I don't know which I feel saddest about: 1. Whether or not this is actually illegal, it is clearly unethical and not in the spirit of good clean business and technology practices we should all be aspire to. 2. That it quickly made it to #1 on Hacker News. 3. That I seem to be one of the few who cares while most others nit on details.

I don't consider it unethical one bit. I live in a country that has no business relationships with the west, and I couldn't buy a movie, even if I paid 10 times the price (and I also have to change my ip to be able to buy it from any western store). I don't watch movies (except for Kubrick's, who is dead) and specially hate Hollywood movies, so I'm not really the target audience of this site.

Ethics is not a set of rules fixed in stone. Killing is bad, but killing an animal beaten by a car is hundreds of times more ethical than letting it spend hours in pain and then die. Pirating/stealing is bad, but you should never fault a poor kid, or someone who is technically unable to purchase that in the first place.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by pixelbath »

EricR23 wrote: post #91
spinlock wrote: post #86

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Jobs and Wozniak started by building freaking boxes.

Ahem. That's "phreaking"... As in phone phreaking. -- coming from an ex-phone phreak ;)

Unless he's talking about the first Apple computer, in which case, they were literally building "freaking boxes."

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by geargrinder »

nddrylliog wrote: post #88
edw519 wrote: post #79

I don't know which I feel saddest about: 1. Whether or not this is actually illegal, it is clearly unethical and not in the spirit of good clean business and technology practices we should all be aspire to. 2. That it quickly made it to #1 on Hacker News. 3. That I seem to be one of the few who cares while most others nit on details.

Totally understand your position. Hesitated a lot about this, and finally thought "fuck it, let's do it". I think it's like people working in porn: they don't necessarily enjoy the industry, but at one point they thought "man, there's really something that needs to be done". I'd much prefer a legal solution. I'd much prefer content owners to expose APIs for the licensing of their content, and have them let us create…

How do you feel about sharing all the code that you created for this site so we can use it for some projects we might have in mind?

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by tomp »

watsix wrote: post #213
laughinghan wrote: post #186

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I'll bite. Why do you think this "clearly unethical"? I don't think it's clear at all. Everyone I know pirates movies, TV shows, and music. Everyone I know also jaywalks. I also know people who use drugs illegally, as well as participate in or facilitate underage drinking, and I don't have a problem with any of it. Are these unethical? Someone clearly thought so. Do I care? You know what the truth is, for me, and eve…

Using drugs, "facilitating underage drinking" and even jaywalking are quite a bit different than stealing. You say you "don't steal (physical things)" as if that makes it ok, but you are stealing. It's a different form of stealing, but you do steal, you lack empathy for the act, and you are usually hurting the creators of that material in one way or another. Even today, there are societies where it is "socially accep…

I'm not hurting them - I would never have bought what they are selling. I'm just letting them benefit me, and thus increasing the level of happiness in this world.

Re: Show HN: movies.io — torrent search like it should be

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Post by pooriaazimi »

wavephorm wrote: post #201
nddrylliog wrote: post #74

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We hate lightbox as much as you do. No, more! Yes, the backdrops are awesome (thank the amazing guys at http://www.themoviedb.org/ !), we'd like to find a cool way to let you show them without crowding the interface.

Tmdb and their API is awesome. But I wish they would provide a dump of their database. I wonder how did you get a copy of all their data, did you build scraper and grab every movie?

Apparently they're using an scraper. See his/her other comment here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4054755
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