Seems like it’s been a while since a new JS framework landed on the front page.
The last decade gave us enough JavaScript for a lifetime.
Show HN: Dagger.js – A buildless, runtime-only JavaScript micro-framework
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Re: Show HN: Dagger.js – A buildless, runtime-only JavaScript micro-framework
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd guess people are getting different results because of the varying A records https://dns.google/query?name=daggerjs.org https://www.whois.com/whois/3.33.130.190 and https://www.whois.com/whois/15.197.148.33 are AWS https://www.whois.com/whois/185.199.109.153 and similar are GitHub and is almost certainly this repo https://github.com/dagger8224/dagger8224.github.io/blob/main...
It's working now
No, it’s still broken. DNS is offering six choices, two of which are broken.
Re: Show HN: Dagger.js – A buildless, runtime-only JavaScript micro-framework
#23I’d actually love to see something that goes in the opposite direction, highly optimized and compiled, where the result is as small, fast, and efficient as possible. I get that a lot of people dislike compilation, but once I have the CI set upI never found build steps to be a problem for me. Some time ago while I was experimenting with writing Debian benchmarks[0], I found that by completely avoiding strings, using U…
I’m in a similar boat like you. I would love for a React-like library that compiles down to direct JavaScript DOM transforms. Of course Svelte exists but I don’t want to mark what is reactive or not and I can’t go back to html templates after using typed JSX. Also I don’t really like the “island” like template syntax of Vue, Svelte, etc
If what you're looking for is JSX and TypeScript (but without magic or reactivity), there's something I wrote here: https://webjsx.org
Re: Show HN: Dagger.js – A buildless, runtime-only JavaScript micro-framework
#24Dagger is also a compile time java dependency injection framework
Was about to say that it's also a lightweight orm for .net, but apparently that's called dapper and I could swear it was dagger.
Re: Show HN: Dagger.js – A buildless, runtime-only JavaScript micro-framework
#25> daggerjs.org is parked free, courtesy of GoDaddy.com
I think your site broke? Also, I'd scoop up daggerjs.com while you're at it.
Re: Show HN: Dagger.js – A buildless, runtime-only JavaScript micro-framework
#26i don't know why i read it as DangerJs hahhahahhahahah
Re: Show HN: Dagger.js – A buildless, runtime-only JavaScript micro-framework
#27Nice work! I'm also a fan of the runtime only frameworks. They might not be as efficient as the compiled counterparts on paper, but in my experience the performance loss is almost negligible compared to the rest of the stack.
Shameless plug to my own runtime (and compile) micro framework: https://github.com/fresho-dev/mancha
Re: Show HN: Dagger.js – A buildless, runtime-only JavaScript micro-framework
#28Seems like it’s been a while since a new JS framework landed on the front page.
The last decade gave us enough JavaScript for a lifetime.
Exactly, we also have to think about support and maintenance when building and shipping products. It's always nice to play with new things to keep the learning fresh and see what people are up to. I started with php and .NET Framework ASP and in the early-mid 2010's when the reactive JS frameworks started coming around I just never found my jive with them and just started working at C#/.NET shops and am using Blazor Server now. For my domain of web application development the .NET web application ecosystem works great. Looking at the dagger.js docs and examples found myself thinking, this is more Java(SCRIPT) development. It's going to inherit the same issues as JavaScript (weak typing, no runtime reflection, no binary build output, locked into vendor interpreters with mixed feature support), and that's not mentioning all the oddities with the way object prototypes are implemented and interact with each other. I think the ambition and result of the project are amiable. The author did good work, but it's good work on a thing we need less of in my opinion.
Re: Show HN: Dagger.js – A buildless, runtime-only JavaScript micro-framework
#29I don’t get it. The native js Dom api has a lot of sharp edges but do people hate it that much abstract away from it?
Personally I rather have zero runtime code along side zero build by learning truly native js dom
Re: Show HN: Dagger.js – A buildless, runtime-only JavaScript micro-framework
#30I’d actually love to see something that goes in the opposite direction, highly optimized and compiled, where the result is as small, fast, and efficient as possible. I get that a lot of people dislike compilation, but once I have the CI set upI never found build steps to be a problem for me. Some time ago while I was experimenting with writing Debian benchmarks[0], I found that by completely avoiding strings, using U…
I’m in a similar boat like you. I would love for a React-like library that compiles down to direct JavaScript DOM transforms. Of course Svelte exists but I don’t want to mark what is reactive or not and I can’t go back to html templates after using typed JSX. Also I don’t really like the “island” like template syntax of Vue, Svelte, etc
Isn't that actually SolidJS?