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Re: Show HN: Promotioner - Allow your readers to pay with clicks

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Post by supjeff » Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 2:51 PM UTC

ryanwaggoner wrote: post #17

ankeshk wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for your comment. I'm at a loss as to how to respond. I'm show casing my startup that is a referral marketing app. Of course, the demo that I set up for it will be about referral marketing too, no?

Don't worry about it, a lot of techies are just grumpy about the very idea of marketing, because they think the world would be a better, purer place without it. They're obviously wrong. Carry on!

Those same idealist techies who hate marketing are the ones who wrote all that wonderful FOSS that these marketing hacks use day-in-and-day out to make the web a shittier place.

Re: Show HN: Promotioner - Allow your readers to pay with clicks

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Post by supjeff » Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 2:54 PM UTC

1monthlater wrote: post #19

ryanwaggoner wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't be an asshole.

I'm not, it's a lame ass idea. There isn't even a demo on the page. Plus, you'll get penalized by Google once they catch on. Scammers gonna scam.

Wanna make extra cash in your spare time working from home?

Re: Show HN: Promotioner - Allow your readers to pay with clicks

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Post by zupreme » Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 3:33 PM UTC

I like what you are doing here. You're turning ordinary people into a marketing team for website owners. This is one of those "Why didn't I think of this!" ideas. Kudos.

Re: Show HN: Promotioner - Allow your readers to pay with clicks

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Post by morisy » Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 4:30 PM UTC

ankeshk wrote: post #10

morisy wrote: post #2

Looks like an interesting idea, but I'd be extremely wary of signing up for any site that rewards users for helping boost your SEO with inbound links. Google has traditionally been pretty harsh on anything resembling linkbuying, and these incentives seem to blur that line. That said, I think there's a lot of room for improved, dead simple referral systems, and I'm glad to see another one enter the fray.

Thanks Michael. The long term idea is to bring the idea of referral marketing to blogs and CMS systems. ALL of the top 500 ecommerce websites have their own referral or affiliate programs. None of the top blogs have their own referral program. And thats because there was no dead simple way of referring blogs yet. We plan to change that. Launching with reward-for-clicks as our MVP. Will introduce pay-per-sale referral…

Thanks. That one line just stood out as a red flag to me on what looked like an otherwise very compelling product - anything that I think could even hint at a Google penalty is sort of a non-starter.

Re: Show HN: Promotioner - Allow your readers to pay with clicks

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Post by ckluis » Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 5:30 PM UTC

ankeshk wrote: post #11

ckluis wrote: post #9

very similar to successnexus - but, they have a very good blog going as well.

We're the same guys actually. Promotioner is owned by SuccessNexus :) Promotioner is a lean rebranding effort to focus more on the site-wide referral idea, and less on the all-in-one ecommerce + mailing list + referral program tool.

I thought something was up. I like the concept. I've considering trying a SEO contest based on the number of senders or even paying linkbuilders this way.

It would help focus people on quality over quantity.

Re: Show HN: Promotioner - Allow your readers to pay with clicks

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Post by JohnQPasserby » Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 10:28 PM UTC

ankeshk wrote: post #7

sp332 wrote: post #6

(And yes, for folks who don't want to show their email address in the URL due to spam worries, they can replace their email address with a unique username.) I would make this the default. Exposing addresses like that is begging for your users to be spearfished.

Thanks. Creating a username requires people to signup. Signing up = friction. And makes fewer people promote you. Allowing people to refer any URL without signing up, simply by adding their email id at the end of the URL seems to be working better in increasing web traffic. Its a trade off. But its a decision taken because the pay off is worth it (till now. If a lot of users say otherwise, then will switch it).

You can linkshorten instead of requiring a signup or showing a plaintext email.