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Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMMS2 ?

XMMS 2 or Audacious or Beep, all work well as WinAmp replacements — provided one doesn't rely on WinAmp-specific plugins which are the joy of WinAmp.

Yeah, that's my issue. I rely on multiple WinAmp-specific plugins for which no replacements (that I'm aware of) exist.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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I'm sure that's true, but I assume that many of these clients either wouldn't have been written this way or would have adapted by now if Gmail did things differently.

Possible. But until those changes are done and deployed, users on mobile connections would do gigabyte-sized downloads and Google's servers would suffer. If a lot of clients do SELECT * FROM *, the DBA will complain a lot until it stops, one way or another. There are advantages and disadvantages to both approaches; it must have been a nasty choice to make.

Sure, can't argue with that :)

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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I work on the FastMail frontend. I’d be interested to have more details, because we pride ourselves on living up to our name (fast!), and providing a robust service. If you have something you can share which concretely performs badly or exhibits such bugs as you describe, please send a test case to support@fastmail.com, asking for the ticket to be passed to me, Chris Morgan. If it’s particular emails that you want me…

> For the mobile app especially, startup can be slow PLEASE fix this! "Startup" is basically "any time I click an e-mail notification". Having to wait 5-10 seconds to see the end of a one-sentence e-mail is incredibly frustrating! Every time I recommend FastMail to a friend I have to qualify it with a "but" because of this. That said, I love the responsiveness of the web app. I wish all websites were that responsive.…

I experience this pain also—I use comparatively cheap phones, currently a Samsung Galaxy J1 2016, and so the FastMail app is seldom running when I open it. Opening an email from a notification takes me 9–13 seconds in Australia, depending on various conditions. Partly in consequence but partly also due to my personality, I only use the app on my phone for the notifications (for which no startup is needed) or when I need access to my emails and am away from my laptop.

When we start using service workers, we’ll be able to load without any network round-trips, a quick measurement of which suggests about four seconds saved for me in Australia (high latency, remember—for people in the US, the saving will be closer to a second and a half), so the nine seconds is hopefully then down to about five, five that we can subsequently work on optimising more aggressively, once the biggest obstruction (the network) is removed.

But all of this will take time to make happen. In the mean time, thanks for recommending FastMail to people with the caveat: I agree wholeheartedly with you on it!

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Reminds me of Helvetimail - I wonder if it still exists somewhere and works with basic HTML gmail? https://www.swiss-miss.com/2009/09/helvetimail-a-minimalist-... Edit: found the original CSS on archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20110817055720/http://www.josefr...

This is the latest copy I could find -- https://web.archive.org/web/20140521210452/http://www.josefr... Sadly, it doesn't work. The CSS used for the simple Gmail is remarkably minimal to a fault for folks like us. edit: here's an extremely basic Dracula theme you can use with Stylish. As a disclaimer, this is roughly ten minutes worth of work -- I don't doubt that I missed the other 80%. https://pastebin.com/raw/srPD…

I can't edit my comment, but if you're interested in trying out a Dracula theme, check out https://github.com/hello-party/Gmail-Basic-HTML-Dracula

Its still not perfect, but it does show potential for better themes for the basic HTML.

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I know this suggestion has been made a million times here by now, but you should really try a service like Fastmail! A few weeks back I began transitioning my data away from Google, and the performance and overall quality level of Fastmail really blew my mind. It's probably the best and fastest web app I've ever used.

I wish I could, be the business I work for is on G Suite.

You can use a proper (local) client though, can't you?

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Maybe it’s more of a security feature? What if phishing emails had a bogus email for the Reply-To name, E.g., “service@paypal.com ”

That was my first thought, but if that's the case, then why is it implemented in the mobile apps?

Different people implementing them?

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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I don't think that's what I'm looking for. I want to enter reminders that don't necessarily arise from an email. For example, if I'm asked in the morning to get some groceries, I'd set a reminder in Inbox about that that would arise at the end of my work day. Now in Gmail, as far as I'm aware, I'd have to email that reminder to myself, and then snooze that email until the end of my workday.

I've been using https://www.followupthen.com/ for this sort of thing

Hmm, that looks nice, but not necessarily faster than snoozing an email I sent to myself when already in my email interface...

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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I use Mail on OS X. I've never had any problems with Gmail. Folders work fine. I never use flags. Notifications work fine. When I delete a message, it's gone. Sometimes it takes a while for the deletion to propagate from one device to another, but I've never had a message survive deletion long term.

IMAP drafts have never worked and still doesn't work. You have to use local drafts as a workaround if you don’t want to end up with many drafts for a single mail in progress … In addition, many Gmail features, especially security-related features, don't work with Mail.app.

> if you don’t want to end up with many drafts for a single mail in progress

That is absolutely a problem I've had with Mail and Gmail. No idea how I fixed it. Or whether it's been fixed at all. But for some reason, drafts turned up in searches, which made searching through my mail an incredibly painful experience. Search is fine now, though. Maybe I turned IMAP drafts off; I really don't know.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Gmail has smart reminders, or maybe I dont understand. I rely on gmail important filter. If I sent an email but there isn't a response back after like 4/5 days gmail puts a reminder into my important section. It's super helpful because I have a hard time remembering the smaller things.

I don't think that's what I'm looking for. I want to enter reminders that don't necessarily arise from an email. For example, if I'm asked in the morning to get some groceries, I'd set a reminder in Inbox about that that would arise at the end of my work day. Now in Gmail, as far as I'm aware, I'd have to email that reminder to myself, and then snooze that email until the end of my workday.

Had a look at the Tasks integration built into GMail now? Essentially the same as reminders. Add a due date and they function the same as reminders - across google calendar as well. On the phone there’s the Tasks app. Works pretty well IMHO, especially having the option to drag an email into a task.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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I've been using https://www.followupthen.com/ for this sort of thing

Hmm, that looks nice, but not necessarily faster than snoozing an email I sent to myself when already in my email interface...

It should be (slightly) faster, since you don't need to interact with the email a second time -- instead of writing an email to yourself, write it to 5pm@fut.io and it'll get sent back to you at that time.
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