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Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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Post by Kalium » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 4:43 AM UTC

marssaxman wrote: post #120

StavrosK wrote: post #11

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In my opinion, it does matter. Slack is pretty and familiar, so an app looking alike is a good thing.

"Familiar", eh? To me it's still "that weird new hipchat competitor people keep talking about", but it's still something operating at a couple of degrees' remove: I've never used it or met anyone who uses it or heard of any reason to use it, and the one time I went to the website it wasn't clear that there was any way for random people to sign up for it. I'm curious why you see it as the established standard - isn't…

Maybe I'm just old and cranky, but to me both Slack and Hipchat are IRC knockoffs.

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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Post by kayoone » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 5:17 AM UTC

As a freelancer today i need to use a plethora of different messaging apps like skype, hangouts, slack, hipchat, irc + a couple of others for private messaging like iMessage, WhatsApp, Facebook, Telegram. It is really becoming somewhat annoying.

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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Post by dlutcat » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 5:40 AM UTC

emixam wrote: post #56

davidchua wrote: post #34

Is there any chance we will see webhooks in a future release? (ie. slack integration)

We are working on integrating Hubot first and we'll look into webhooks after.

Will you plan to integrate with Atlassian services like jira, stash, confluence?

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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Post by creshal » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 6:48 AM UTC

drcross wrote: post #88

emixam wrote: post #37

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We have updated the page to recommend Gajim instead. It is a better choice indeed.

Also Conversations doesnt allow for customer server IP address so it's unusable for me. Yaxim does which is why I will have to stay with it. Custom IP server addresses are important if you have DNS/NAT complications within your internal network compared to outside.

Can you use SRV records for this? Or is that unsupported too?

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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Post by bobzoller » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 7:10 AM UTC

sebu77 wrote: post #14

hackerboos wrote: post #9

Excellent work. Is there a reason why you chose Prosody over MongooseIM or ejabberd?

Thank you. We chose Prosody because it supports the XEP we needed and it was originally used by Otalk from which we forked.

Could you talk about why you forked Otalk? All I could find was the diff[1], and it seems like Otalk is still active.

1: https://github.com/otalk/otalk-im-client/compare/master...di...

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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Post by pki » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 2:18 PM UTC

Kiro wrote: post #83

Touche wrote: post #75

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What's so original about the Slack ui? It's channels on the left and conversation on the right. A lot of irc clients look this way.

Sure but this is a clone down to the details. Tell me one IRC client that looks like Slack in the same way.

mirc with users on right, channels on left, chat in middle

centre is basically a copy of hipchat...

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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Post by anonbanker » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 6:43 PM UTC

pkorzeniewski wrote: post #51

est wrote: post #31

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I for one welcome slack competitors, self-hostable, open sources ones especially.

Maybe you'll be interested in Talqee [1] which offers a self-hosted version. It's coming really soon :) [1] https://talqee.com

We're supposed to pretend a paid app will be competitive in this space.

hillarious way to advertise, chum.

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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Post by anonbanker » Thu, Apr 09, 2015, 6:54 PM UTC

goodmachine wrote: post #81

Note that the same team also offer a Trello clone and an Evernote clone. Draw your own conclusions. http://digicoop.io/products

I bet the entirety of the GNU projects (Free reimplementations of closed-source products) must blow your mind.

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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Post by stpeter » Fri, Apr 10, 2015, 2:27 AM UTC

gwillen wrote: post #82

ge0rg wrote: post #21

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GTalk has broken federation for Hangouts users, and they failed to enable s2s encryption, which is mandatory since February: https://github.com/stpeter/manifesto/blob/master/manifesto.t...

Can you explain, or point me to an explanation of, _in detail_, exactly what GTalk broke in terms of federation? I find that in practice I can _sometimes_ communicate with _some_ users from _some_ clients, but it seems like it's flaky and there's not a clear pattern to it. Do you have any deeper insight?

Most of the XMPP network switched last year to REQUIRING encryption for one server to talk to another server. Google doesn't support encryption at all for server-to-server links, and thus servers like jabber.org (of which I'm the admin) can't talk to Google anymore. See more at https://github.com/stpeter/manifesto/blob/master/manifesto.t...

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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Post by diroussel » Fri, Apr 10, 2015, 2:44 PM UTC

mrmondo wrote: post #78

hsivonen wrote: post #69

No mention of OTR. :-( When your client is a Web app on a trusted server (i.e. OTR key on the server), you could avoid multi-client issues by having only that on XMPP client that you connect to from multiple browsers.

Came here to say just this. I've been looking for a replacement for our Openfire server for some time now, but there just hasn't been anything that's quite there yet.

Why are you looking to move away from Openfire? I used it years ago and liked it.