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Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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> "scamming" you by giving you something for nothing Again, Columbia Record Club > putting their extremely permissive terms in clear writing If the written terms are clear already, why do you want to call it free/open source? (Which it isn't)

Do you really not understand that the colloquial use of these terms differ, and that most people don't even know about the FSF and OSI? On the other hand, the license has always been the law and everyone knows that. If you're just going off someone mentioning they "open-sourced" their work, not checking the license, and importing that into corporate projects, then you could end up with anything and would frankly be l…

> If you're just going off someone mentioning they "open-sourced" their work, not checking the license, and importing that into corporate projects, then you could end up with anything and would frankly be lucky to later find a FSL or BSL rather than something in the GPL family.

You would expect to be able to run the program freely, including as part of your production services, without incurring any obligations. And under any open-source license (including GPL-family) you can, because that's part of what open-source means. Getting presented with a bill because the program turned out to be BSL and the way you were using it means you need a commercial license is absolutely a scam.

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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Having worked quite deeply with Jira and a host of other enterprise products that target this set of use cases, and having a pretty good understanding of what decision makers are looking for when evaluating these products for fit (I have been that person), what does "AI First" mean? I realize AI is the hype right now and it seems like most products have to pay the AI Tax (i.e. "Yes we're doing AI stuff so you should…

Someone had to call it out!!! thank you for that.

Oh, the AI hype! It's basically just common sense wrapped in a shiny new package.

Let's call quick filters 'AI' and be amazed, shall we?

When the dataset is limited, what magical tricks can AI pull? Joining threads or conversations is just a fancy wildcard search. Where's the real optimization?

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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post #92

Having worked quite deeply with Jira and a host of other enterprise products that target this set of use cases, and having a pretty good understanding of what decision makers are looking for when evaluating these products for fit (I have been that person), what does "AI First" mean? I realize AI is the hype right now and it seems like most products have to pay the AI Tax (i.e. "Yes we're doing AI stuff so you should…

all that i wanted to say, only better.

i am a zero-to-one guy and i get that this kind of positioning is often forward-looking, but i think that's what early-stage founders get wrong, especially if they aren't core whatever-noun they are anchoring to.

if you consider all other incumbents in this space, they are all AI-driven. your differentiator could be AI only if you are core AI and have drawn up models for project or work management use cases. otherwise, just stick to whatever your differentiators are in the near-term and change positioning later when you are core AI.

Taskade did this well. Notion is doing it well. they are all pivoting around AI without trading off whatever's their core.

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