Show HN: OpenSign – Open source alternative to DocuSign

Post by anonymous_sorry » Sun, Oct 29, 2023, 9:24 AM UTC

kemitchell wrote: post #60

yodon wrote: post #2

My understanding (possibly incorrect) is that competing with DocuSign is hard because of the need to follow obscure state and National laws (many of which are defined by case law rather than published law) in order for the signatures to be legally binding. Is that the case? And if so, is there evidence OpenSign has done this kind of SME research to make sure the electronic signatures are legally binding, or is this m…

I haven't researched the law here in a while, but my general impression the last time I did was that there isn't much in the way of legal requirements for signing things digitally beyond the federal ESIGN Act, general principles of state contract law, and the smattering of very particular kinds of transactions that require processes like notarization or recording. For everyday deals between the vast majority of peopl…

Post by 3c6bYDXLMj » Sun, Oct 29, 2023, 9:38 AM UTC

anonymous_sorry wrote: post #121

kemitchell wrote: post #60

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I haven't researched the law here in a while, but my general impression the last time I did was that there isn't much in the way of legal requirements for signing things digitally beyond the federal ESIGN Act, general principles of state contract law, and the smattering of very particular kinds of transactions that require processes like notarization or recording. For everyday deals between the vast majority of peopl…

Does this hold true in the rest of the world?

Post by quickthrower2 » Sun, Oct 29, 2023, 10:25 AM UTC

otteromkram wrote: post #120

vitus wrote: post #95

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> this year the Supreme Court has set a new precedent that they can now overturn their own rulings from decades earlier What happened this year specifically? Dobbs was in June 2022, but that isn't even close to the first time that the Supreme Court overturned precedent from 50+ years prior -- Brown v Board largely overturned Plessy v Ferguson ("separate but equal") from nearly 60 years prior. And, we've had plenty of…

Roe v. Wade

Post by robertlagrant » Sun, Oct 29, 2023, 10:53 AM UTC

kurthr wrote: post #113

robertlagrant wrote: post #70

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Rent seeking is trying to create a legal/regulatory structure that means you can farm people. E.g. coming to the UK from some countries you need to prove you can speak English. Assuming you can, and you need a waiver on the test, there is a sole organisation you can pay hundreds of pounds to to send them your degree certificate, and for them to say in some government UI "yes, this probably means they can speak Englis…

Regulatory lock-in is certainly one method of guaranteeing rent. I'd argue copyrights and patents are as well. Microsoft and Google get accused of rent seeking because of their near monopolies, but I don't think most of their income is particularly based on regulation. You find other forms of lock-in can come from network effects in social media (Facebook), or B2B lock-in due to outsourcing of basic business operatio…

Post by johnchristopher » Sun, Oct 29, 2023, 12:21 PM UTC

alexopensource wrote: post #107

johnchristopher wrote: post #104

> You will need to create an AWS S3 bucket or digital ocean space in order to store your uploaded documents The org I work for would love to self-host on-premise a digital signing solution so they definitely won't use external dependencies like AWS. Theoretically they could swap with minio but last time we used it it was not a drop-in replacement yet.

We will be supporting more storage providers including self hosting soon.